SOLUTION: The real numbers x and y satisfy x^2 + y^2 - 8x + 6y + 23 = 0. Find the largest possible value of x + y.

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Question 1209658: The real numbers x and y satisfy
x^2 + y^2 - 8x + 6y + 23 = 0.
Find the largest possible value of x + y.

Found 3 solutions by CPhill, ikleyn, math_tutor2020:
Answer by CPhill(1959)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
Here's how to find the largest possible value of x + y:
1. **Rewrite the equation:**
The given equation represents a circle. We can rewrite it in standard form by completing the square for both x and y:
x² - 8x + y² + 6y + 23 = 0
(x² - 8x + 16) + (y² + 6y + 9) + 23 - 16 - 9 = 0
(x - 4)² + (y + 3)² = 2
2. **Geometric Interpretation:**
This equation represents a circle with center (4, -3) and radius √2.
3. **Express y in terms of x:**
We want to maximize x + y. Let's express y in terms of x using the equation of the circle:
(y + 3)² = 2 - (x - 4)²
y + 3 = ±√[2 - (x - 4)²]
y = -3 ± √[2 - (x - 4)²]
4. **Maximize x + y:**
We want to maximize the function f(x) = x + y. Substituting the expression for y, we get:
f(x) = x - 3 ± √[2 - (x - 4)²]
To find the maximum value of f(x), we can consider the line x + y = k, where k is a constant. We want to find the largest value of k such that the line intersects the circle. Geometrically, this line will be tangent to the circle at the point that maximizes x + y.
The line x + y = k can be written as y = -x + k. The slope of this line is -1.
5. **Tangent Line:**
The line connecting the center of the circle (4, -3) to the point of tangency will be perpendicular to the tangent line x + y = k. Thus, the slope of this line is 1. Let (x,y) be the point of tangency.
(y - (-3))/(x - 4) = 1
y + 3 = x - 4
y = x - 7
Substitute into the equation for the circle:
(x-4)^2 + (x - 7 + 3)^2 = 2
(x-4)^2 + (x-4)^2 = 2
2(x-4)^2 = 2
(x-4)^2 = 1
x - 4 = ±1
x = 5 or x = 3
If x = 5, y = 5 - 7 = -2, so x + y = 3
If x = 3, y = 3 - 7 = -4, so x + y = -1
The maximum value of x+y is 3.
**Alternatively:**
The maximum value of x + y occurs when the line x + y = k is tangent to the circle. The distance from the center of the circle to the line must be equal to the radius.
|4 + (-3) - k| / sqrt(1^2 + 1^2) = sqrt(2)
|1 - k| / sqrt(2) = sqrt(2)
|1 - k| = 2
1 - k = 2 or 1 - k = -2
k = -1 or k = 3.
The largest value is 3.
Final Answer: The final answer is $\boxed{3}$

Answer by ikleyn(52780)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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The real numbers x and y satisfy
x^2 + y^2 - 8x + 6y + 23 = 0.
Find the largest possible value of x + y.
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            Here is another solution.


Let x + y = k.    (1)

Then the quadratic equation represents a circle, while equation (1) represents a straight line.


So, the problem is to find the tangent line (1) to the circle with greatest k.


Or, in algebra language, we want to find k such a way, that quadratic equation and equation (1)
have only one solution (representing the tangent point), which provides highest value of "k".


So, we express from (1)  y = k-x  and substitute it inte the quadratic equation.  We get then

    x^2 + (k-x)^2 - 8x + 6*(k-x) + 23 = 0,

    x^2 + k^2 - 2kx + x^2 - 8x + 6k - 6x + 23 = 0,

    2x^2 - (2k+14)x +(k^2 + 6k + 23) = 0.    (2)


The condition that the circle and the line have only one common point is equivalent 
to the condition that the discriminant of equation (2) is zero.


The discriminant is

    d = b^2 - 4ac = (2k+14)^2 - 4*2*(k^2 + 6k + 23) = 4k^2 + 56k + 106 - 8k^2 - 48k - 184 = 

      = -4k^2 + 8k + 12.


Hence, the condition that the discriminant equal to zero is this quadratic equation for "k"

    4k^2 - 8k - 12 = 0.


Simplify and then factor

    k^2 - 2k - 3 = 0,

    (k-3)*(k+1) = 0.


The roots are k = 3  and k = -1.


We want the greatest "k", so the ANSWER to the problem's question is k = 3.

Solved.



Answer by math_tutor2020(3816)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!

Answer: 3

Explanation

If you complete the square for the x and y terms, then you'll go from

to

This is a circle with center (4,-3). The radius is
You can use various tools such as GeoGebra or WolframAlpha to verify the claim.
Or you can expand out the terms in the 2nd equation to arrive back at the 1st equation.

This will mean the point (x,y) is on the circle's boundary.

Consider the equation x+y = k
The goal is to find the largest k value possible.

If you draw out the graph of the circle, and draw various lines of the form x+y = k, then you should notice that exactly one line will be tangent to the circle at the northeast corner.

A = center of the circle = (4,-3)
B = tangent point = (5,-2)
The green tangent line has the equation x+y = 3
This is the largest x+y can get when subjected to the condition that aka
Note radius AB has slope 1 which is the negative reciprocal of the tangent slope -1.
Radius AB is perpendicular to the green tangent line.

Check out this interactive Desmos graph
Adjusting the slider for parameter k will move the line x+y = k up or down.

Verification using WolframAlpha
The answer on the WolframAlpha page is a bit buried in a sea of numbers & symbols, but it does mention 3 under the "global maximum" subsection and just before the "at (x,y) = (5,-2)"

More practice with a similar problem is found here

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