SOLUTION: The following logarithm problem is a catastrophe. I did it three times and was hoping for same answer, but nope. Every time I got a different answer. TRY 1: log_b( 28 ) - lo

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Question 1065221: The following logarithm problem is a catastrophe. I did it three times and was hoping for same answer, but nope. Every time I got a different answer.
TRY 1:
log_b( 28 ) - log_b(7X) = log_b( 8 )
log_b( 28/7 )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 4/x )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 4 )-log_b( x )-log_b( 8 )=0
log_b( 4 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( x )
log_b( x )=log_b( 4 )-log_b( 8 )
Now, I am gonna raise b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^(log_b( x ))=b^(log_b( 4 ))-b^(log_b( 8 ))
x=4-8= -4
This solution is incorrect, and I am not sure why. I think I did everything right to the best of my knowledge.
TRY 2:
log_b( 28 )-log_b( 7X )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 28 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( 7X )
Now, I am raising b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^(log_b( 28 ))-b^(log_b( 8 ))=b^(log_b( 7X ))
28-8=7x
20/7=x
This solution is also wrong, and I am not sure why, but to me, everything looks fine.
TRY 3 (the one COPIED from the book):
log_b( 4/x )=log_b( 8 )
Now, I am raising b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^log_b( 4/x )=b^(log_b( 8 ))
4/x=8
4=8x
4/8=x
1/2=x
This solution is correct. I understand how it's derived, but I have no clue why the above two solutions are not the same than this one. I expected them to be the same regardless of how I solve the problem.
Thank you for having the courage to answer this long question.

Found 2 solutions by josgarithmetic, MathTherapy:
Answer by josgarithmetic(39620) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
Just your first one:

log%28b%2C28%29-log%28b%2C7x%29=log%28b%2C8%29

log%28b%2C%2828%2F%287x%29%29%29=log%28b%2C8%29

log%28b%2C%284%2Fx%29%29=log%28b%2C8%29

The inputs must be equal.
4%2Fx=8

4=8x

highlight%28x=1%2F2%29

Answer by MathTherapy(10552) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
The following logarithm problem is a catastrophe. I did it three times and was hoping for same answer, but nope. Every time I got a different answer. 

TRY 1:
log_b( 28 ) - log_b(7X) = log_b( 8 )
log_b( 28/7 )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 4/x )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 4 )-log_b( x )-log_b( 8 )=0
log_b( 4 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( x )
log_b( x )=log_b( 4 )-log_b( 8 )
Now, I am gonna raise b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^(log_b( x ))=b^(log_b( 4 ))-b^(log_b( 8 ))
x=4-8= -4

This solution is incorrect, and I am not sure why. I think I did everything right to the best of my knowledge. 

TRY 2:
log_b( 28 )-log_b( 7X )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 28 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( 7X )
Now, I am raising b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^(log_b( 28 ))-b^(log_b( 8 ))=b^(log_b( 7X ))
28-8=7x
20/7=x

This solution is also wrong, and I am not sure why, but to me, everything looks fine. 

TRY 3 (the one COPIED from the book):
log_b( 4/x )=log_b( 8 )
Now, I am raising b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^log_b( 4/x )=b^(log_b( 8 ))
4/x=8
4=8x
4/8=x
1/2=x

This solution is correct. I understand how it's derived, but I have no clue why the above two solutions are not the same than this one. I expected them to be the same regardless of how I solve the problem. 
Thank you for having the courage to answer this long question.

The following logarithm problem is a catastrophe. I did it three times and was hoping for same answer, but nope. Every time I got a different answer. 

TRY 1:
log_b( 28 ) - log_b(7X) = log_b( 8 )
log_b( 28/7 )=log_b( 8 ) This should be 28%2F%287x%29 
log_b( 4/x )=log_b( 8 )  You are correct up to here

log_b( 4 )-log_b( x )-log_b( 8 )=0
log_b( 4 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( x )
log_b( x )=log_b( 4 )-log_b( 8 )
Now, I am gonna raise b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^(log_b( x ))=b^(log_b( 4 ))-b^(log_b( 8 ))
x=4-8= -4

log_b( 4/x )=log_b( 8 ) Picking up where you were last correct
4%2Fx+=+8 ------ log+%28a%2C+%28d%2Fe%29%29+=+log+%28a%2C+%28f%29%29 means that: d%2Fe+=+f
Continue solving for x and you should get: x+=+1%2F2


TRY 2:
log_b( 28 )-log_b( 7X )=log_b( 8 )
log_b( 28 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( 7X ) You are correct up to here
 
Now, I am raising b to each side to get rid of log_b
b^(log_b( 28 ))-b^(log_b( 8 ))=b^(log_b( 7X ))
28-8=7x
20/7=x

log_b( 28 )-log_b( 8 )=log_b( 7X ) Picking up where you were last correct
log+%28b%2C+%2828%2F8%29%29+=+log+%28b%2C+%287x%29%29 
28%2F8+=+7x ------ AGAIN, log+%28a%2C+%28d%2Fe%29%29+=+log+%28a%2C+%28f%29%29 means that: d%2Fe+=+f
7%2F2+=+7x ------- Reducing fraction on left side
14x = 7 ------ Cross-multiplying
matrix%281%2C5%2C+x%2C+%22=%22%2C+7%2F14%2C+or%2C+1%2F2%29

There you go....same answer!