SOLUTION: Given the equation {{{4x^2+8x+k=0}}} , for what values of k will the equation have a repeated root, 2 real roots, and 3 values of k that will give the equation rational roots. I un

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Question 997637: Given the equation 4x%5E2%2B8x%2Bk=0 , for what values of k will the equation have a repeated root, 2 real roots, and 3 values of k that will give the equation rational roots. I understand what it means to have those types of roots, I just don't understand how you would get to those specific answers. Like, I know how to find and imaginary root for this equation: +%5B-infinite%3Ck%3Cless+than+0%5D+ . Would that be right?
Found 3 solutions by josgarithmetic, Boreal, MathLover1:
Answer by josgarithmetic(39617) About Me  (Show Source):
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The discriminant of your equation is 8%5E2-4%2A4%2Ak.
Simplified, 64-16k.

Set discriminant to 0 to find what k gives two repeated roots. Solve for k.

Set discriminant to be greater than 0 to find what k gives two unique roots. Solve for k.


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In pure text, it must read -infinity lessThan k lessThan 0,... unfortunately this will fail if done on this site page in the proper pure text symbolism, but the proper symbolism WILL render: -infinity%3Ck%3C0.
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Answer by Boreal(15235) About Me  (Show Source):
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4x^2+8x+k=0
4x^2+8x=-k
Factor out 4.
4(x^2+2x)= -k but k can be any constant, so it doesn't have to be divided by 4.
If you complete the square, the roots will be the same, -1.
4(x^2+2x+1)= -(k)+4, adding 4 to both sides
4(x+1)^2= -k +4
The right side has to equal zero for completing the square to give two roots of -1
-k=-4
k=4
4x^2+8x+4=0
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Two real roots can be many things, so long as the discriminant b^2-4ac is positive.
b^2>4ak, since k is acting as c
64>16k
k<4 will work
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Rational roots work if the discriminant gives a perfect square, for all parts of the quadratic formula will be a fraction with nothing but integers.
b^2-16k has to be a perfect square
64-16k
k=0 works and roots are 4 and 0
k=3 :(1/8){-8 +/- sqrt(16){=(1/8)(-4) and (1/8)(-12)
k= -36/16 (1/8) (-8 +/- sqrt (100) and (1/8)(-8+10), (1/8) (-8-10) or (10/8), (-18/8)

Answer by MathLover1(20849) About Me  (Show Source):
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Given the equation 4x%5E2%2B8x%2Bk=0 , for what values of k will the equation have a repeated root (one double root), 2 real roots, and 3 values of k that will give the equation rational roots.
First of all, every polynomial has a discriminant, not just quadratics. The discriminant is the first place you look to classify the types of roots a polynomial has.
For example, a quadratic equation ax^2 + bx + c = 0, has a discriminant b%5E2+-+4ac
If b%5E2+-+4ac+%3E+0, there are two real roots.
If b%5E2+%96+4ac%3C0 there are two imaginary roots .
If b%5E2+%96+4ac=0, there is one repeated root.

so, in your case we have
4x%5E2%2B8x%2Bk=0 where a=4, b=8, and c=k
If b%5E2+-+4ac+%3E+0, there are two real roots.
so,
b%5E2+-+4ac+%3E+0
8%5E2+-+4%2A4k+%3E+0
64-+16k+%3E+0
64%3E+16k+
64%2F16%3E+k+
4%3E+k+ or
highlight%28k%3C4%29
take first number less then 4:k=3 and check the roots
4x%5E2%2B8x%2B3=0 ...when you check it, you will find out that roots are: x+=+-3%2F2 and x+=+-1%2F2

+graph%28+600%2C+600%2C+-10%2C+10%2C+-10%2C+10%2C+4x%5E2%2B8x%2B3%29+


If b%5E2+%96+4ac%3C0 there are two imaginary roots .
b%5E2+%96+4ac%3C0
8%5E2+-+4%2A4k+%3C+0
64-+16k+%3C+0
64%3C16k+
64%2F16%3C+k+
highlight%28k%3E4%29
take k=5 and check

+graph%28+600%2C+600%2C+-10%2C+10%2C+-10%2C+10%2C+4x%5E2%2B8x%2B5%29+

If b%5E2+%96+4ac=0, there is one repeated root.

b%5E2+%96+4ac=0
8%5E2+-+4%2A4k+=0
64-+16k+=+0
64=16k+
64%2F16=+k+
highlight%28k=4%29
take k=4 and check

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