SOLUTION: If one root of the equation x^2-12x-P=0 is the square of the other, then find the value of P?

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Question 925613: If one root of the equation x^2-12x-P=0 is the square of the other, then find the value of P?
Found 3 solutions by josgarithmetic, Edwin McCravy, MathTherapy:
Answer by josgarithmetic(39617) About Me  (Show Source):
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Roots, x=%2812%2B-+sqrt%28144%2B4%2AP%29%29%2F2, using formula for general solution of quadratic equations;

x=%2812%2B-+2sqrt%2872%2BP%29%29%2F2

x=6%2B-+sqrt%2872%2BP%29

The condition about the roots means you could try highlight_green%286%2Bsqrt%28P%2B72%29=%286-sqrt%28P%2B72%29%29%5E2%29. Work from that, simplifying and then solve for P.

Answer by Edwin McCravy(20056) About Me  (Show Source):
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That's one way of solving it.  Here's another.

Either way you'll have to check for extraneous solutions.

Let the two roots be x=a and x=b,

Then we have a system of three equations and 3 unknowns:

system%28a%5E2-12a-P=0%2Cb%5E2-12b-P=0%2Ca%5E2=b%29

Substitute a%5E2 for b in

b%5E2-12b-P=0
%28a%5E2%29%5E2-12%28a%5E2%29-P=0
a%5E4-12a%5E2-P=0

Solve for P

a%5E4-12a%5E2=P

Substitute in

a%5E2-12a-P=0
a%5E2-12a-%28a%5E4-12a%5E2%29=0
a%5E2-12a-a%5E4%2B12a%5E2=0
-a%5E4%2B13a%5E2-12a=0
a%5E4-13a%5E2%2B12a=0
a%28a%5E3-13a%2B12%29=0

It's easy to see that 1 is a solution to a%5E3-13a%2B12

1 | 1  0 -13  12
  |    1   1 -12
    1  1 -12   0

So we have factored the polynomial equation as

a%28a-1%29%28a%5E2%2Ba-12%29=0

We further factor it as

a%28a-1%29%28a%2B4%29%28a-3%29=0

So we have four solutions for a

a=0, a=1, a=-4, a=3

although one or more may be extraneous.

Substituting a=0 in

a%5E4-12a%5E2=P
0%5E4-12%280%29%5E2=P
0=P

Substituting a=1 in

a%5E4-12a%5E2=P
1%5E4-12%281%29%5E2=P
1-12=P
-11=P

Substituting a=-4 in

a%5E4-12a%5E2=P
%28-4%29%5E4-12%28-4%29%5E2=P
256-12%2816%29=P
256-192=P
64=P

Substituting a=3 in

a%5E4-12a%5E2=P
3%5E4-12%283%29%5E2=P
81-12%289%29=P
81-108=P
-27=P

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Checking:
P=0
x%5E2-12x-P=0
x%5E2-12x-0=0
x%5E2-12x=0
x%28x-12%29=0
x=0, x=12

So P=0 is extraneous

P=-11
x%5E2-12x-P=0
x%5E2-12x-%28-11%29=0
x%5E2-12x%2B11=0
%28x-11%29%28x-1%29=0
x=11, x=1

So P=-11 is extraneous

P=64
x%5E2-12x-P=0
x%5E2-12x-64=0
%28x%2B4%29%28x-16%29=0
x=-4, x=16

P=64 is a solution, since (-4)2=16

P=-27
x%5E2-12x-P=0
x%5E2-12x-%28-27%29=0
x%5E2-12x%2B27=0
%28x-3%29%28x-9%29=0
x=3, x=9

P=-27 is a solution, since 32=9

There are 2 actual solutions, P=64 and P=-27

Edwin

Answer by MathTherapy(10552) About Me  (Show Source):
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If one root of the equation x^2-12x-P=0 is the square of the other, then find the value of P?

x%5E2+-+12x+-+P+=+0
The roots’ sum: s+=+-+b%2Fa______s+=+-%28-+12%29%2F1, or 12
Let smaller root be S
Then larger root = S%5E2
Since the 2 roots’ sum is 12, then we can say that: S+%2B+S%5E2+=+12
S%5E2+%2B+S+-+12+=+0
(S + 4)(S - 3) = 0
S, or smaller root = - 4, or 3
When smaller root = - 4, then larger root = %28-+4%29%5E2, or 16
When smaller root = 3, then larger root = 3%5E2, or 9
The roots’ product: p+=+c%2Fa______p+=+%28-+P%29%2F1, or – P
Roots’ product, when roots are – 4 and 16: - 4(16), or – 64
Thus, - P = - 64
P+=+%28-+64%29%2F%28-+1%29, or highlight_green%2864%29
Roots’ product, when roots are 3 and 9 = 3(9), or 27
Thus, - P = 27
P+=+27%2F%28-+1%29, or highlight_green%28-+27%29