SOLUTION: find the smallest of 3 consecutive positive integers such that when 5 times the largest is subtracted from the square of the middle one the result exceeds three times the smallest

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Question 766392: find the smallest of 3 consecutive positive integers such that when 5 times the largest is subtracted from the square of the middle one the result exceeds three times the smallest by 7.
i cant seem to figure out what "exceeds three times the smallest by 7" part. i get the other part in front. i just need help translating what that part means into algebraic form and i then i can solve the equation.

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Answer by ramkikk66(644) About Me  (Show Source):
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Question:
find the smallest of 3 consecutive positive integers such that when 5 times the largest is subtracted from the square of the middle one the result exceeds three times the smallest by 7.
Ans:
Let the numbers be n and (n+1) and (n+2)
(You can also assume n-1, n and n+1 - the approach is still the same)
Now let's look at each part of the question and translate it into algebraic form.
Largest number = n+2
5 times the largest number = 5%2A%28n%2B2%29 = 5%2An+%2B+10
Middle number = n+1
Square of the middle number = %28n%2B1%29%5E2+=+n%5E2+%2B+2%2An+%2B+1
Smallest number = n
3 times the smallest number = 3%2An
"5 times largest number" subtracted from "square of middle number" will give you
n%5E2+%2B+2%2An+%2B+1+-+%285%2An+%2B+10%29 = n%5E2+-+3%2An+-9
This value "exceeds '3 times the smallest' by 7" means this is equal to
"3 times the smallest + 7" i.e. it is 3%2An+%2B+7
Equating the above, n%5E2+-+3%2An+-+9+=+3%2An+%2B+7
i.e. n%5E2+-6%2An+-+16+=+0
This is a standard quadratic equation, which can be solved by factorization or
by the quadratic formula, as shown below.
The solutions are n = 8, or n = -2
Since it is given that the numbers are positive, the set of 3 numbers are
8,9 and 10.
Check: Square of middle number - 5 times largest number = 81 - 50 = 31
3 times smallest number = 3 * 8 = 24.
31 exceeds 24 by 7 - correct!
:)
Solved by pluggable solver: SOLVE quadratic equation with variable
Quadratic equation ax%5E2%2Bbx%2Bc=0 (in our case 1x%5E2%2B-6x%2B-16+=+0) has the following solutons:

x%5B12%5D+=+%28b%2B-sqrt%28+b%5E2-4ac+%29%29%2F2%5Ca

For these solutions to exist, the discriminant b%5E2-4ac should not be a negative number.

First, we need to compute the discriminant b%5E2-4ac: b%5E2-4ac=%28-6%29%5E2-4%2A1%2A-16=100.

Discriminant d=100 is greater than zero. That means that there are two solutions: +x%5B12%5D+=+%28--6%2B-sqrt%28+100+%29%29%2F2%5Ca.

x%5B1%5D+=+%28-%28-6%29%2Bsqrt%28+100+%29%29%2F2%5C1+=+8
x%5B2%5D+=+%28-%28-6%29-sqrt%28+100+%29%29%2F2%5C1+=+-2

Quadratic expression 1x%5E2%2B-6x%2B-16 can be factored:
1x%5E2%2B-6x%2B-16+=+1%28x-8%29%2A%28x--2%29
Again, the answer is: 8, -2. Here's your graph:
graph%28+500%2C+500%2C+-10%2C+10%2C+-20%2C+20%2C+1%2Ax%5E2%2B-6%2Ax%2B-16+%29



Answer by MathTherapy(10552) About Me  (Show Source):
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find the smallest of 3 consecutive positive integers such that when 5 times the
largest is subtracted from the square of the middle one the result exceeds three times the smallest by 7.
i cant seem to figure out what "exceeds three times the smallest by 7" part. i get the other part in front. i just need help translating what that part means into algebraic form and i then i can solve the equation.

Let the first of the 3 consecutive positive integers be F
Then the second, or middle integer is F + 1, and the largest is F + 2. I hope you're with me so far!!

%28F+%2B+1%29%5E2+-+5%28F+%2B+2%29+=+3F+%2B+7 --------- Translating "when 5 times the largest is subtracted from the square of the middle one the result exceeds three times the smallest by 7."

Note that "when 5 times the largest is subtracted from the square of the middle one,"5 times the largest" or 5(F + 2) is subtracted from the square of the middle one (%28F+%2B+1%29%5E2) by placing 5(F + 2) after the %28F+%2B+1%29%5E2.

Additionally, note that %28F+%2B+1%29%5E2+-+5%28F+%2B+2%29 is LARGER than 3 times the first integer (3F) by 7, so highlight_green%28%28F+%2B+1%29%5E2+-+5%28F+%2B+2%29+=+3F+%2B+7%29