SOLUTION: A 340 meter long train is accelerating from rest at 6 meter/second square. With the start of motion, a man standing at the front end of the train, projects a ball upwards at a velo

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Question 731943: A 340 meter long train is accelerating from rest at 6 meter/second square. With the start of motion, a man standing at the front end of the train, projects a ball upwards at a velocity of 50 meters/second. Do calculaions to decide if the ball will fall back on the train or will miss it.
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Answer by ikleyn(53427) About Me  (Show Source):
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A 340 meter long train is accelerating from rest at 6 meter/second square.
With the start of motion, a man standing at the front end of the train, projects a ball upwards
at a velocity of 50 meters/second. Do calculaions to decide if the ball will fall back on the train
or will miss it.
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        I will solve the problem as physicists do.


The ball will move up  during  v%2Fg = 50%2F10 = 5 seconds.


Next 5 seconds the ball will fall down from the most upper level to the ground.


So, the train has 10 seconds to move forward while the ball is in the air.


During 10 seconds, the train will move forward  %28at%5E2%29%2F2 = %286%2A10%5E2%29%2F2 = 300 meters.


Hence, the ball will fall back on the train.

Solved.



Answer by KMST(5330) About Me  (Show Source):
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How does that man "project a ball upwards? How high is the top of the train at the place the ball could hit?
Whatever height the man shoots the ball from let's assume the ball would hit the train at that height or miss the train. Lets say the ball is shot up from the train floor and may fall on the floor of one of some open top cars near the back of the train or miss the train entirely.

THE TEACHER'S SOLUTION:
As the problem says "projects", students should apply
the formula for projectile motion learned in class to describe the ball motion,
and the formula for uniformly accelerated motion to describe the motion of the train.
For a projectile projected up from a height h%5B0%5D at an initial speed v%5B0%5D ,
under gravity with an acceleration g, the height as a function of time is
h%28t%29=-gt%5E2%2F2%2Bv%5B0%5Dt%2Bh%5B0%5D
For distance d covered under uniformly accelerated motion during time t with initial speed v%5B0%5D with a constant acceleration a is
d%28t%29=v%5B0%5Dt%2Bat%5E2%2F2
The commonly used value for acceleration of gravity om Earth is
g=9.8m%2Fs%5E2
With h%5B0%5D=0m and v%5B0%5D=50m%2Fs, using meter and second units,
we have h%28t%29=-4.9t%5E2%2B50t for the ball.
Factoring it as h%28t%29=%28-4.9t%2B50%29t we se that h%28t%29=0 for
t=0 and t=50%2F4.9=10.2 seconds for the ball.
For the train, with units of meters and seconds, we have v%5B0%5D=0 and a=6 ,
so we get the distance covered during while the ball is in the air as
d%2810.2%29=0%2B6%2A10.2%5E2%2F2=highlight%28312.2%29 meters.
That is less than the length of the train, so there is still part of the train under the ball as the ball gets down, and hits the train.

THE FIFTH GRADER'S SOLUTION:
The ball starts with an upwards speed of 50meters/second(50m/s), and gravity makes that speed decrease at a rate of 9.8m%2Fs%5E2%22 until the upwards speed is zero.
After that the ball continues to accelerate downwards at 9.8m%2Fs%5E2 from the speed of 0m%2Fs it had at the top of its flight. If nothing stops the ball, it would reach the height level it started from, and at that point its downwards speed would be 50m%2Fs.
The speed change from 0m/s to 50m/s at a rate of %229.8m%2F%22s%5E2 should take
%28%2850m%2Fs%29%29%2F%28%289.8m%2Fs%5E2%29%29%22=%225.1s
That is the time the ball spent going up to its greatest height.
From there, it would take the same time accelerating from 0m%2Fs to 50m%2Fs downwards to get to the height it started at the level of the train floor.
The round trip would have taken 5.1s%2B5.1s=10.2s .
During that time the train has accelerated from 0m%2Fs at 6m%2Fs%5E2 , and has reached a speed of
%286m%2Fs%5E2%29%2A%2810.2s%29=61.2m%2Fs (rounded).
The distance the train covered during those 10.2 seconds, can be calculated as average speed times 10.2 seconds:
Because the acceleration was constant, the speed increased linearly and the average speed is the average of initial and final speeds for that period of time:
0m%2Fs%2B61.2m%2Fs=30.6m%2Fs , and the distance covered during that time period was %2830.6m%2Fs%29%2A%2810.2s%29=highlight%28312.2m%29 (rounded).
That mean the front of the train moved that far and as the train's length is 340m%3E312.24m ,
a spot in the train 312.24 meters behind the front of the train is now where the front of the train was when the ball was projected upwards. The ball will hit the train at that spot.