SOLUTION: I need help factoring. I just don't get it. 8x^2y+34xy-84y

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Question 582095: I need help factoring. I just don't get it.
8x^2y+34xy-84y

Found 2 solutions by jim_thompson5910, richard1234:
Answer by jim_thompson5910(35256) About Me  (Show Source):
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8x%5E2y%2B34xy-84y Start with the given expression.


2y%284x%5E2%2B17x-42%29 Factor out the GCF 2y.


Now let's try to factor the inner expression 4x%5E2%2B17x-42


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Looking at the expression 4x%5E2%2B17x-42, we can see that the first coefficient is 4, the second coefficient is 17, and the last term is -42.


Now multiply the first coefficient 4 by the last term -42 to get %284%29%28-42%29=-168.


Now the question is: what two whole numbers multiply to -168 (the previous product) and add to the second coefficient 17?


To find these two numbers, we need to list all of the factors of -168 (the previous product).


Factors of -168:
1,2,3,4,6,7,8,12,14,21,24,28,42,56,84,168
-1,-2,-3,-4,-6,-7,-8,-12,-14,-21,-24,-28,-42,-56,-84,-168


Note: list the negative of each factor. This will allow us to find all possible combinations.


These factors pair up and multiply to -168.
1*(-168) = -168
2*(-84) = -168
3*(-56) = -168
4*(-42) = -168
6*(-28) = -168
7*(-24) = -168
8*(-21) = -168
12*(-14) = -168
(-1)*(168) = -168
(-2)*(84) = -168
(-3)*(56) = -168
(-4)*(42) = -168
(-6)*(28) = -168
(-7)*(24) = -168
(-8)*(21) = -168
(-12)*(14) = -168

Now let's add up each pair of factors to see if one pair adds to the middle coefficient 17:


First NumberSecond NumberSum
1-1681+(-168)=-167
2-842+(-84)=-82
3-563+(-56)=-53
4-424+(-42)=-38
6-286+(-28)=-22
7-247+(-24)=-17
8-218+(-21)=-13
12-1412+(-14)=-2
-1168-1+168=167
-284-2+84=82
-356-3+56=53
-442-4+42=38
-628-6+28=22
-724-7+24=17
-821-8+21=13
-1214-12+14=2



From the table, we can see that the two numbers -7 and 24 add to 17 (the middle coefficient).


So the two numbers -7 and 24 both multiply to -168 and add to 17


Now replace the middle term 17x with -7x%2B24x. Remember, -7 and 24 add to 17. So this shows us that -7x%2B24x=17x.


4x%5E2%2Bhighlight%28-7x%2B24x%29-42 Replace the second term 17x with -7x%2B24x.


%284x%5E2-7x%29%2B%2824x-42%29 Group the terms into two pairs.


x%284x-7%29%2B%2824x-42%29 Factor out the GCF x from the first group.


x%284x-7%29%2B6%284x-7%29 Factor out 6 from the second group. The goal of this step is to make the terms in the second parenthesis equal to the terms in the first parenthesis.


%28x%2B6%29%284x-7%29 Combine like terms. Or factor out the common term 4x-7


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So 2y%284x%5E2%2B17x-42%29 then factors further to 2y%28x%2B6%29%284x-7%29


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Answer:


So 8x%5E2y%2B34xy-84y completely factors to 2y%28x%2B6%29%284x-7%29.


In other words, 8x%5E2y%2B34xy-84y=2y%28x%2B6%29%284x-7%29.


Note: you can check the answer by expanding 2y%28x%2B6%29%284x-7%29 to get 8x%5E2y%2B34xy-84y or by graphing the original expression and the answer (the two graphs should be identical).

Answer by richard1234(7193) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
First you can factor out 2y:



The 4x^2 + 17x - 42 is a bit tricky to factor; the best way to learn is by experience and simply being able to "see" the correct factorization.

4x^2 + 17x - 42 can be factored into a product (ax + b)(cx + d). We want ac = 4, so a,c can equal 2 or 1,4. However, if a = c = +/- 2, the x coefficient will be even, so try a=1, c=4. We can kind of "guess and check" based on the factorization of -42 to obtain the factorization

, in which the complete answer would be .

Again, this takes lots of practice. Another way you could factor it is to find the roots of 4x^2 + 17x - 42 by the quadratic formula:



Then you could factor it as . However, the leading coefficient is 4 so we can multiply the first term by 4.