SOLUTION: Need to turn this into standard form... 4x^2+4y^2-24+16y-100=0 4x^2+4y^2+16y=124 4x^2+4y^2+16Y+(1/2 of 16 =8^2=64)=124 4x^2 +4y^2+16y+64-64=124-64 4x^2 + 4y^2+16y=64 4x^2+ (2

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Question 253258: Need to turn this into standard form...
4x^2+4y^2-24+16y-100=0
4x^2+4y^2+16y=124
4x^2+4y^2+16Y+(1/2 of 16 =8^2=64)=124
4x^2 +4y^2+16y+64-64=124-64
4x^2 + 4y^2+16y=64
4x^2+ (2y+4)^2=64 or 8^2
I know this is not right but i do not know what to do.

Found 2 solutions by jim_thompson5910, Edwin McCravy:
Answer by jim_thompson5910(35256) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2-24%2B16y-100=0 Start with the given equation.


4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2%2B16y-124=0 Combine like terms.


4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2%2B16y=124 Add 124 to both sides.


4x%5E2%2B%284y%5E2%2B16y%29=124 Group the 'y' terms (ie any terms that have a 'y' in them)


4x%5E2%2B4%28y%5E2%2B4y%29=124 From that group alone, factor out the GCF 4


Take half of the 'y' coefficient 4 and square it to get %284%2F2%29%5E2=2%5E2=4. Add AND subtract this value inside the parenthesis (so the equation isn't changed)


4x%5E2%2B4%28y%5E2%2B4y%2Bhighlight%284-4%29%29=124 Add AND subtract the value 4 inside the parenthesis


4x%5E2%2B4%28y%5E2%2B4y%2B4-4%29=124


4x%5E2%2B4%28%28y%5E2%2B4y%2B4%29-4%29=124 Inside the parenthesis, group the first three terms.


4x%5E2%2B4%28%28y%2B2%29%5E2-4%29=124 Factor y%5E2%2B4y%2B4 (which is a perfect square) to get %28y%2B2%29%5E2


4x%5E2%2B4%28y%2B2%29%5E2-16=124 Distribute.


4x%5E2%2B4%28y%2B2%29%5E2=124%2B16 Add 16 to both sides.


4x%5E2%2B4%28y%2B2%29%5E2=140 Combine like terms.


4%28x%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2%29=140 Factor the GCF 4 from the left side.


x%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=140%2F4 Divide both sides by 4.


x%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=35 Reduce.


Take note that we can write x%5E2 as %28x-0%29%5E2 and %28y%2B2%29%5E2 as %28y--2%29%5E2. Also, we can write 35 as %28sqrt%2835%29%29%5E2. So the last equation then becomes

%28x-0%29%5E2%2B%28y--2%29%5E2=%28sqrt%2835%29%29%5E2


which is in the form %28x-h%29%5E2%2B%28y-k%29%5E2=r%5E2 (which is a circle) where h=0, k=-2, and r=sqrt%2835%29. Recall that (h,k) is the center. So the center is (0,-2). Also, the radius is 'r' which means that the radius is sqrt%2835%29 units.


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Answer:

So the standard form of the equation 4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2-24%2B16y-100=0 is %28x-0%29%5E2%2B%28y--2%29%5E2=%28sqrt%2835%29%29%5E2 which is a circle with radius of sqrt%2835%29 units and a center at (0,-2).


Note: your teacher will probably want a simplified answer. So s/he will probably want the answer of x%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=35 (since it's much cleaner looking). If you want to verify the answer, simply graph the two conic sections and you'll find that they are the same conic section.

Answer by Edwin McCravy(20056) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2-24%2B16y-100=0
4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2-24%2B16y-100=0
4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2%2B16y-124=0

First of all notice that every term is divisible by 4,
so let's divide every term by 4:

x%5E2%2By%5E2%2B4y-31=0

Let's add 31 to both sides:

x%5E2%2By%5E2%2B4y=31

Let's complete the square of the last two terms y%5E2%2B4x
on the left side.  We take the coefficient of y, which is 4, 
multiply it by 1%2F2, getting 2, then we square 2, and 
2%5E2 is 4, so we add %22%22%2B4 to both sides:

x%5E2%2By%5E2%2B4yred%28%22%2B4%22%29=31red%28%22%2B4%22%29

Let's put parentheses around the last three terms on the left
side and combine the terms on the right:

x%5E2%2B%28y%5E2%2B4y%2B4%29=35

Now factor the trinomials in the parentheses:

x%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%28y%2B2%29=35

That can be written as

x%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=35

In fact you could have skipped the step before that.

The standard form for a circle is

%28x-h%29%5E2%2B%28y-k%29%5E2=r%5E2

Since you didn't have to complete the square on the
x term, because you only had an x%5E2 term and
no x-term, then to get it in the standard form you
have to write x%5E2 as %28x-0%29%5E2 to have the
standard form, so the answer is

%28x-0%29%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=35

%28x-h%29%5E2%2B%28y-k%29%5E2=r%5E2

is the equation of a circle

which has center (h,k) and radius r

%28x-0%29%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=35

is the equation for a circle which has center

(0,-2) and radius sqrt%2835%29 which is about 5.92

and has this graph:



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Are you sure there wasn't supposed to be an x after the -24?
The reason I ask that is I don't think when you are advanced 
enough to be studying circles, that your teacher would 
still be testing you on such an elementary thing as to see 
whether you could combine the terms -24 and -100.  So I'm going 
to assume you really meant:

4x%5E2%2B4y%5E2-24red%28x%29%2B16y-100=0

First of all notice that every term is divisible by 4,
so let's divide every term by 4:

x%5E2%2By%5E2-6x%2B4y-25=0

Let's group the the two terms in x first and the two terms
in y second, and add 25 to both sides:

x%5E2-6x%2By%5E2%2B4y=25

To complete the square of the first two terms x%5E2-6x
we take the coefficient of x, which is -6, multiply it by 1%2F2,
getting -3, then we square -3, and %28-3%29%5E2 is 9, so we add %22%22%2B9
to both sides:

x%5E2-6xred%28%22%2B9%22%29%2By%5E2%2B4y=25red%28%22%2B9%22%29

Let's put parentheses around the first three terms and
combinethe terms on the right.

%28x%5E2-6x%2B9%29%2By%5E2%2B4y=34

Now lwt's complete the square of the last two terms y%5E2%2B4x
on the left side.  We take the coefficient of y, which is 4, 
multiply it by 1%2F2, getting 2, then we square 2, and 
2%5E2 is 4, so we add %22%22%2B4 to both sides:

%28x%5E2-6x%2B9%29%2By%5E2%2B4yred%28%22%2B4%22%29=34red%28%22%2B4%22%29

Let's put parentheses around the last three terms on the left
side and combine the terms on the right:

%28x%5E2-6x%2B9%29%2B%28y%5E2%2B4y%2B4%29=38

Now factor the trinomials in the two parentheses:

%28x-3%29%28x-3%29%2B%28y%2B2%29%28y%2B2%29=38

That can be written as

%28x-3%29%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=38

In fact you could have skipped the step before that.

That's the standard form for a circle 

%28x-h%29%5E2%2B%28y-k%29%5E2=r%5E2

which has center (h,k) and radius r

%28x-3%29%5E2%2B%28y%2B2%29%5E2=38

is the equation for a circle which has center

(3,-2) and radius sqrt%2838%29 which is about 6.16

and has this graph:

 

Edwin