SOLUTION: Suppose a and b are positive numbers for which {{{log(4,a)}}} = {{{log(10,b)}}} = {{{log(25,(a-b)).}}} What is the value of b/a?

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Question 1204648: Suppose a and b are positive numbers for which log%284%2Ca%29 = log%2810%2Cb%29 = log%2825%2C%28a-b%29%29. What is the value of b/a?
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Suppose a and b are positive numbers for which log%284%2Ca%29 = log%2810%2Cb%29 = log%2825%2C%28a-b%29%29..
What is the value of b/a?
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Let x be the common value of log%284%2Ca%29, log%2810%2Cb%29 and log%2825%2C%28a-b%29%29.

So,  x = log%284%2Ca%29,           (1)

     x = log%2810%2Cb%29,          (2)

     x = log%2825%2C%28a-b%29%29.      (3)


Then we can write

     4%5Ex = a               (4)

     10%5Ex = b              (5)

     25%5Ex = a-b            (6)


Multiply equation (4) by 5%5Ex  (both sides).  You will get

     4%5Ex%2A5%5Ex = 5%5Ex%2Aa,  or  

     20%5Ex = 5%5Ex%2Aa.         (7)


Divide equation (7) by equation (5)  (side by side).  You will get

     2%5Ex = 5%5Ex%2A%28a%2Fb%29

hence  

     b%2Fa%29 = 5%5Ex%2F2%5Ex.              (8)


Square equation (8)  (both sides).  You will get

    %28b%2Fa%29%5E2 = %285%5E%282x%29%29%2F2%5E%282x%29 = 25%5Ex%2F4%5Ex.    (9)


Now in the right side of (9) replace 25%5Ex  by  (a-b), based on (6);

                             and replace 4%5Ex  by "a", based on (4).


You will get then

     %28b%2Fa%29%5E2 = %28a-b%29%2Fa,

or  
     %28b%2Fa%29%5E2 = 1-b%2Fa.    (10)


We just are on the finish line and will celebrate a victory soon.


Now you see that (10) is a quadratic equation for b%2Fa.

To solve it quickly for b%2Fa, let's introduce new variable b%2Fa = t.


Equation (10) takes the form

    t^2 = 1 - t,

or

    t^2 + t - 1 = 0.


Use the quadratic formula

    t%5B1%2C2%5D = %28-1+%2B-+sqrt%281+-+4%2A1%2A%28-1%29%29%29%2F2 = %28-1+%2B-+sqrt%285%29%29%2F2.


Thus we have two solutions for t. But since the numbers "a" and "b" are positive (according to the condition),

we leave only one, positive solution:

    t = b%2Fa = %28-1%2Bsqrt%285%29%29%2F2.


ANSWER.  There is one and only one solution for b%2Fa.   It is  b%2Fa = %28-1%2Bsqrt%285%29%29%2F2.

Solved.


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