SOLUTION: <pre> Suppose x is a positive number such that {{{x^2=1-x}}}. There is a unique choice of whole numbers p and q so that {{{x^8=p-qx}}}. Find p+q. My attempt: I know that if

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Question 1196201:
Suppose x is a positive number such that x%5E2=1-x. There is a unique choice of whole numbers p and q so that x%5E8=p-qx. Find p+q.


My attempt:
I know that if x%5E2=1-x, then x%5E8=%281-x%29%5E4, which simplifies to 1+-+4x+%2B+6x%5E2+-+4x%5E3+%2Bx%5E4. Then what?


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Answer by ikleyn(52790) About Me  (Show Source):
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If x^2 = 1-x, then

   x^8 = (1-x)^4 = 1 - 4x + 6x^2 - 4x^3 + x^4.


The idea is to replace in this expression, and in all expressions that follow, x^2 by (1-x) 
everywhere, where it is possible, and as many times as possible, until you get the desired 
expression of degree 1 (one).


                        See how it works


    x^8 = 1 - 4x + [6(1-x)] - [4x*(1-x)] + [(1-x)*(1-x)] = I continue =

        = 1 - 4x + 6 - 6x - 4x + 4x^2 + 1 - 2x + x^2 = 8 - 14x + 5x^2 = I replace x^2 by (1-x) again = 

        = 8 - 14x + 5*(1-x) = 8 - 16x + 5 - 5x = 13 - 21x.    

 
    So, p = 13, q = 21  and  p + q = 13 + 21 = 34.      ANSWER

Solved.

This method is called  " the lowering of a degree "  method.


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Answer by MathTherapy(10552) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
Suppose x is a positive number such that x%5E2=1-x. There is a unique choice of whole numbers p and q so that x%5E8=p-qx. Find p+q.

My attempt:
I know that if x%5E2=1-x, then x%5E8=%281-x%29%5E4, which simplifies to 1+-+4x+%2B+6x%5E2+-+4x%5E3+%2Bx%5E4. Then what?
                   I got p + q = 34

                   

You already know that: matrix%281%2C3%2C+x%5E8%2C+%22=%22%2C+1+-+4x+%2B+6x%5E2+-+4x%5E3+%2B+x%5E4%29
                   So,  ---- Substituting  
                       
                          matrix%281%2C2%2C+%22=%22%2C+5x%5E2+-+16x+%2B+8%29
                          matrix%281%2C2%2C+%22=%22%2C+5%281+-+x%29+-+16x+%2B+8%29 ----- Substituting 1 - x for x2
                          matrix%282%2C2%2C+%22=%22%2C+5+-+5x+-+16x+%2B+8%2C+%22=%22%2C+13+-+21x%29
 
              Finally, matrix%282%2C3%2C+x%5E8%2C+%22=%22%2C+13+-+21x%2C+x%5E8%2C+%22=%22%2C+p+-+qx%29, so p = 13, and q = 21. Therefore, p + q = 13 + 21 = 34