SOLUTION: Hi Rex had altogether 212 $1 & $5 notes. After using 1/3 of the $1 notes,he took out another 12 $5 notes from his cash box. Now the number of 5 dollar notes he has is 1/4 the numb

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Question 1174647: Hi
Rex had altogether 212 $1 & $5 notes. After using 1/3 of the $1 notes,he took out another 12 $5 notes from his cash box. Now the number of 5 dollar notes he has is 1/4 the number of 1 dollar notes remaining.
How many 5 dollar notes did he have at first.
Thanks

Found 3 solutions by ankor@dixie-net.com, ikleyn, greenestamps:
Answer by ankor@dixie-net.com(22740) About Me  (Show Source):
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Your Answer:
Rex had altogether 212 $1 & $5 notes.
let a = no. of $1 notes
let b = no. of $5 notes
therefore
a + b = 212
or
a = (212-b), use this form for substitution
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After using 1/3 of the $1 notes, he took out another 12 $5 notes from his cash box.
Now 2%2F3a = $1 notes remain in the cash box
and
(b-12) = $5 notes remain in the cash box
:
Now the number of 5 dollar notes he has is 1/4 the number of 1 dollar notes remaining.
b - 12 = 1%2F4*2%2F3a
b - 12 = 2%2F12a
reduce fraction
b - 12 = 1%2F6a
multiply both sides by 6
6(b-12) = a
6b - 72 = a
replace a with (212-b)
6b - 72 = 212 - b
6b + b = 212 + 72
7b = 284
b = 284/7
b = 40.157
These kind of problems have to have integer solutions, something is wrong with this problem!!
:
How many 5 dollar notes did he have at first.

Answer by ikleyn(52890) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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Something is HEAVILY WRONG with your input data.


Wording is also FAR from to be PERFECT.



Answer by greenestamps(13209) About Me  (Show Source):
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As one tutor says, the wording of the problem makes the information unclear.

Interpreted one way, as the other tutor did, the problem comes out with a nonsensical answer, with the numbers of each kind of bill not being whole numbers.

The way I read the problem the first time, the problem does have a solution.

The phrase that causes the problem is "... he took another 12 $5 notes from his cash box".

The other tutor interpreted that as decreasing the number of $5 bills by 12; that is a reasonable interpretation.

The first time I read the problem, I interpreted it to mean he went to his cash box and got 12 MORE $5 bills to add to what he already had. Also a reasonable interpretation.

The fact that the wording allows two very different reasonable interpretations means the statement of the problem is defective.

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Assuming my interpretation....

x = original number of $1 notes
212-x = original number of $5 notes

(2/3)x = number of $1 notes after he used 1/3 of the original number

(212-x)+12 = number of $5 notes after he added 12 more from his cash box

The number of $5 notes was now 1/4 the number of $1 notes.

%28212-x%29%2B12+=+%281%2F4%29%282%2F3%29x
224-x+=+%281%2F6%29x
224+=+x%2B%281%2F6%29x+=+%287%2F6%29x
x+=+%286%2F7%29%28224%29+=+6%2832%29+=+192

The original number of $1 notes was 192; the original number of $5 notes was 212-192 = 20.

ANSWER: The original number of $5 notes was 20.