SOLUTION: Formula for question (a): nPr=n!/r!(n-r)! Assume a class has 24 members. (a)How many 4-person committees can be formed out of a class of 15? Formula for (b): The number of comb

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Question 1161853: Formula for question (a): nPr=n!/r!(n-r)! Assume a class has 24 members.
(a)How many 4-person committees can be formed out of a class of 15?
Formula for (b): The number of combinations of n objects taken r at a time is given by the formula nCr=n!/r!(n-r_!
(b)How many committees of 10 people can be chosen?

Answer by KMST(5328) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
You have a wrong formula, and formulas are not good for brain health.
For a student, understanding and reasoning is best for brain health.
You cannot raise wise students feeding them formulas.
(You can figure out by yourself how to feed babies for best brain health).

However, to communicate with computers, calculators, and math teachers
we need a little vocabulary/symbols. (More of that later).
The symbol 4%21 represents 4%2A3%2A2%2A1=24 ,
a product with the first 4 counting numbers as factors.
We call it "factorial of 4" or "4 factorial".
My calculator has "x!" as a function,
but factorial is used for positive integers,
although we extend it beyond 1%21=1 to 0%21=1 .

(a) I understand that when we pick 4 students for a committee out of a class of 15 students,
we just need a group/set of 4 students.
We can list them in any order and it is the same committee
with all students equally important for now.
They can distribute their roles and responsibilities among themselves later.
We could instead make an ordered list,
where the first named is the president of the committee,
the second one is the secretary/note-taker,
the third is the treasurer,
and the last one brings the donuts to the meetings.
In that case the same 4 people mentioned in different order make a different list.
When we make lists of 4 people out of 15 available to choose from,
we have 15 choices for the first name in the list.
Afterwards, for each of those 15 choices,
we will have 14 remaining choices for a second name (the 14 not yet chosen students).
Then, we will have 13 choices for the third name,
and 12 choices for the fourth.
All in all, we could make 15%2A14%2A13%2A12=32760 lists.
That is not 32760 different sets of students,
because each set of 4 students can be listed 4%2A3%2A2%2A1=24 different ways Different orders).
We will find each different set of 4 students repeated as 24 times in those 32760 lists.
Those 32760 lists represent only
%2815%2A14%2A13%2A12%29%2F%284%2A3%2A2%2A1%29=32760%2F24=highlight%281365%29 different committees.

(b) For a list of 10 students out of a class of 15 there are
15%2A14%2A13%2A%22....%22%2A8%2A7%2A6 different possibilities
That is a product of 10 factors that are the numbers from 1 to 15, except the first 15-10=5 numbers.
We would tell a computer or a calculator to calculate that as computer could see that as
.
Each set of 1%5D students can be written in 10%21 different orders as 10%21 different lists,
so the 15%21%2F%2815-10%29%21=15%21%2F5%21 different lists represent
15%21%2F%2815-10%29%21%2F10%21=15%21%2F5%21%2F10%21=highlight%28273%29 .

MORE symbols and vocabulary:
My (cheap) scientific calculator has keys for the functions nPr and nCr .

nPr (with n%3E=r , of course) represents
the number of different permutations (lists) of r items that can be made
out of a total of n different items.
It is called permutations of n taken r at a time because the same r items in different order make a different list/permutation.
The formula to calculate that number is
nPr=n%21%2F%28n-r%29%21 , where
n%21=n%2A%28n-1%29%2A%28n-2%29%2A%22...%22%2A3%2A2%2A1 is the product of the n consecutive integers from 1 to n , and
%28n-r%29%21=n%2A%28n-r-1%29%2A%28n-r-2%29%2A%22...%22%2A3%2A2%2A1 is the product of the n-r consecutive integers from 1 to n-r ,
(except that we define 0%21=1 for consistency).
nPn=n%21%2F%28n-n%29%21=n%21%2F0%21=n%21%2F1=n%21 represents the number of list permutations of n items
that we can make using all n items at a time (for each list).
We just call it permutations of n, but n%21 is shorter and more direct.

nCr=nPr%2Fn%21%22=%22%22n%21%2F%28n-r%29%21%22%2Fr%21%22=%22n%21%2F%28n-r%29%21%2Fr%21 represents the number of different sets/combinations you can make
by picking r items out of n available items.
We use "C" in that symbol for combinations,
meaning that we consider {lettuce,tomato,pickle} the same
set/combination of 3 burger toppings as {tomato,pickle,lettuce} .