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Question 1151423: 1) suppose (x^2)+(y^2)=1 is a known identity. Determine if, under such assumption, the following is an identity: 2(y^6)+(x^5)=-2(x^6)+(x^5)+6(x^4)-6(x^2)+2
A) NOT an identity
B) YES, identity
2) suppose (x^2)+3=x+1 is a known identity. Determine if, under such assumption, the following is an identity: 6(x^5)+8=-6x+44
A) NOT an identity
B) YES, identity
Note: can you please give me the answer and explain how did get that answer, I have no idea how to solve this type of questions. Thanks
Found 3 solutions by Edwin McCravy, ikleyn, MathTherapy: Answer by Edwin McCravy(20060) (Show Source): Answer by ikleyn(52803) (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website! .
Edwin made a huge and a perfect job solving these problems and explaining it to you.
But I still want to return to the problem.
- Why ?
Because I think that its formulation is FAR FROM TO BE precisely perfect and correct.
So, I want to concentrate my and your attention on matters that were, probably, out the scope of the visitor,
of the author of the problem and even out the Edwin's scope.
What Edwin proved, is THIS:
If = 1, (1)
then
= . (2)
Mathematicians express it by these words:
if values of x and y satisfy equation (1), then they satisfy also equation (2).
Or by these words:
if the set of points {(x,y)} satisfy equation (1), then this set of points satisfy equation (2), also.
Or by these words:
equation (2) is satisfied on the set of solutions of equation (1).
Notice that I do not use the words
"the following is an identity = -2(x^6) + (x^5) + 6(x^4) - 6(x^2) + 2(x^5) + 6(x^4) - 6(x^2) + 2}}}" (*)
because the literal meaning of these words is that the identity (*) is true for ALL VALUES of variables x and y.
The last statement, OBVIOUSLY, would be FALSE and WRONG.
So, actually, the correct formulation to problem (1) would be
Prove that the first given equation is equivalent to the second given equation on the coordinate plane.
Math is a precise science, and it loves those who operates with right ideas and
use right words to express these ideas.
Same or very similar note about the problem (2).
Its correct formulation would be
Check if the first given equation is equivalent to the second given equation.
Edwin showed that the first given polynomial is a factor to the second given polynomial.
Therefore, every solution to the first polynomial is the solution to the second polynomial.
But the second polynomial has other factor and, via this factor, has other solution, which is not the solution to the first equation.
So, the first and the second given equations ARE NOT EQUIVALENT.
Notice that I do not use the term/terms "identity", but use the terms "equivalent" or "not equivalent", instead,
by applying them to equations.
Answer by MathTherapy(10552) (Show Source):
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