SOLUTION: frank went 16 miles at one speed and then caame back going 4mph faster. if the return trip took 40mins less time find the 2 speeds.

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Question 1031863: frank went 16 miles at one speed and then caame back going 4mph faster. if the return trip took 40mins less time find the 2 speeds.
Found 4 solutions by mananth, ikleyn, n2, josgarithmetic:
Answer by mananth(16949) About Me  (Show Source):
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Forward time - return time = 40 minutes = 2/3 hours
Let forward rate be x
return rate = x+4
16/x - 16/(x+4) = 2/3
LCD
3x(x+4)
48(x+4) -48x = 2*3x(x+4)
48x + 192 -48x = 6x^2+24x
6x^22 +24x -192=0
/6
x^2+4x-32=0
x^2+8x-4x-32=0
x(x+8)-4(x+8) =0
(x+8)(x-4) =0
x=4 the positive value
4 mph & 8 mph

Answer by ikleyn(53619) About Me  (Show Source):
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frank went 16 miles at one speed and then came back going 4mph faster. if the return trip took 40 mins
less time find the 2 speeds.
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        The solution in the post by @mananth is incorrect.
        It has an arithmetic error on the way, which leads to wrong answer.
        I came to bring a correct solution.


Let x be the rate going to there, in miles per hour.

Then the rate going back is (x+4) miler per hour.


The time going at one speed is  16%2Fx  hours.

The time going back is  16%2F%28x%2B4%29  hours.


The time equation is

    16%2Fx - 16%2F%28x%2B4%29 = 2%2F3.


To solve, multiply both sides by LCD  3x*(x+4).  You will get


    48(x+4) - 48x = 2x(x+4)     <<<---===  note it is DIFFERENT equation than that in the post by @mananth

    192 = 2x(x+4)

     96 = x(x+4)

    x^2 + 4x - 96 = 0

    (x+12)*(x-8) = 0


The roots are -12 and 8.  We reject negative root and accept the positive one x = 8.


ANSWER.  The speeds are 8 mph (going to there) and 12 mph (going back).


CHECK.  The time going to there is  16%2F8 = 2 hours.

        The time going back is  16%2F%288%2B4%29 = 16%2F12 = 4%2F3 = 11%2F3 hours.

        The difference is  2%2F3  of an hour,  which is PRECISELY CORRECT.

Solved correctly.



Answer by n2(55) About Me  (Show Source):
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frank went 16 miles at one speed and then came back going 4mph faster. if the return trip took 40 mins
less time find the 2 speeds.
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Let x be the rate going to there, in miles per hour.

Then the rate going back is (x+4) miler per hour.


The time going at one speed is  16%2Fx  hours.

The time going back is  16%2F%28x%2B4%29  hours.


The time equation is

    16%2Fx - 16%2F%28x%2B4%29 = 2%2F3.


To solve, multiply both sides by LCD  3x*(x+4).  You will get


    48(x+4) - 48x = 2x(x+4)     

    192 = 2x(x+4)

     96 = x(x+4)

    x^2 + 4x - 96 = 0

    (x+12)*(x-8) = 0


The roots are -12 and 8.  We reject negative root and accept the positive one x = 8.


ANSWER.  The speeds are 8 mph (going to there) and 12 mph (going back).


CHECK.  The time going to there is  16%2F8 = 2 hours.

        The time going back is  16%2F%288%2B4%29 = 16%2F12 = 4%2F3 = 11%2F3 hours.

        The difference is  2%2F3  of an hour,  which is PRECISELY CORRECT.



Answer by josgarithmetic(39736) About Me  (Show Source):
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SPEED%2ATIME=DISTANCE
TIME=DISTANCE%2FSPEED

            SPEEDS         TIME            DISTANCE

WENT            r            16/r             16

BACK            r+4          16/(r+4)         16

DIFFERENCE                   2/3

40 minutes is 2%2F3 hour.

16%2Fr-16%2F%28r%2B4%29=2%2F3
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