Question 1198566: A train traveling from Avondale to Bimmaeus stops at a cracked rail after 1 hour, and the engineer spends half an hour fixing it. After which it proceeds at four fifths its usual rate to make it easier to check for problems, arriving at Bimmaeus 2 hours late. If the train had covered 80 miles more before the accident, it would have been just one hour late. What is the train's usual speed?
Found 3 solutions by ikleyn, Edwin McCravy, mccravyedwin: Answer by ikleyn(52756) (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website! .
A train traveling from Avondale to Bimmaeus stops at a cracked rail after 1 hour,
and the engineer spends half an hour fixing it.
After which it proceeds at four fifths its usual rate, arriving at Bimmaeus 2 hours late.
If the train had covered 80 miles more before the accident,
it would have been just one hour late. What is the train's usual speed?
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Hey, please pay attention that I edited your post, by removing
the words that are irrelevant to the meaning and distract attention.
Let D be the entire distance from A to B (in miles),
and let d be the distance from A to the incident point X.
Let "u" be the regular speed of the train, in miles per hour.
The train moved from A to X with its usual speed "u".
The time is hours.
Then the train moved from X to B with the speed of 0.8u.
The time is hours.
The total moving time is + hours in this scenario.
The REGULAR total moving time is hours, and we are given that
+ - = 2 - 0.5 = 1.5 hours. (1)
Notice that the moving time, ONLY, is in both sides of equation (1).
In the second scenario, everything is similar, but we should replace d
in equation (1) by (d+80). We have then the second equation in the form
+ - = 1 - 0.5 = 0.5 hours. (2)
Notice that the moving time, ONLY, is in both sides of equation (2).
Now subtract equation (2) from equation (1). You will get
+ = 1. (3)
+------------------------------------------------------------+
| Thus we get this simple equation (3) for the unknown |
| quantity u, which is under the problem's question. |
+------------------------------------------------------------+
Simplify this equation (3) and find "u"
+ = 1
= 1
u = 20.
ANSWER. The regular speed of the train is 20 miles per hour.
Solved.
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It is an Olympiad level problem in Physics for a local school
(meaning very enthusiastic and very competent teacher in Physics)
or a school district, or at the local university/college.
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Added after seeing the post by Edwin.
Edwin, read the problem attentively.
As it is worded, problem considers two scenarios, and in the second scenario,
the distance from A to the fracture point is 80 miles longer than that in the first scenario.
Your consideration is not adequate to the problem. Unfortunately.
Mine is correct.
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Edwin, I am glad that we came to an agreement.
I got all your messages, related to this problem.
Regarding your question about the word "MORE", it was in the post from the very beginning - I did not edit it.
When I edit something, I ALWAYS keep an original version untouched and ALWAYS point which part I edit.
It is my standard style - I can not make editing in other way.
Thanks for your wishes to me related to the holiday season.
In response, I wish the same to you.
Answer by Edwin McCravy(20054) (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
Ikleyn's solution is CORRECT. I overlooked the word "MORE", and solved this
problem instead, where the "....." is below. It is a much harder problem that
way. A train traveling from Avondale to Bimmaeus stops at a cracked rail after 1
hour, and the engineer spends half an hour fixing it. After which it proceeds at
four fifths its usual rate to make it easier to check for problems, arriving at
Bimmaeus 2 hours late. If the train had covered 80 miles.....before the
accident, it would have been just one hour late. What is the train's usual
speed?Here is the more difficult solution to the problem without the word "MORE":
The above drawing represents the two situations.
x = distance from A to cracked rail
y = distance from cracked rail to B
z = distance from cracked rail to B if cracked rail were 80 miles from A.
Let r = the usual speed of the train
Let h = the number of hours the train would take to go from A to B at
the usual speed r. So using d=rt, we have AB = hr. From that and the
drawing above, we have:
(1) Distance AB = x+y = 80+z = hr
Make this DRT chart for the 4 distances in
the drawings above:
Distance | Rate | time
x | r | 1
y | 4/5r | (h+2)-(1)-(1/2) = h+1/2
80 | r | 80/r
z | 4/5r | (h+1)-(80/r)-(1/2) = h-80/r+1/2
I will explain the times for distances y and z.
Time for traveling the y miles:
The train was 2 hours late, so it arrived in h+2 hours
after leaving A. However, 1 hour was spent traveling
the x miles, and another 1/2 hour was spent fixing the
cracked rail. So we cannot count those times for the
time traveling the y miles. So we must subtract those
times from the total h+2 hours. Thus the time for
traveling the y miles is
(h+2)-(1)-(1/2) = h+1/2
Time for traveling the z miles:
The train would have been 1 hour late, so it would have
arrived in h+1 hours after leaving A. However, using
t=d/r, 80/r hours would have been spent traveling the
80 miles, and 1/2 hour would have been spent fixing the
cracked rail. So we cannot count those times
for the time traveling the z miles. So we must subtract
those times from the total h+1 hours. Thus the time for
traveling the z miles is
(h+1)-(80/r)-(1/2) = h-80/r+1/2.
So from the drawing above, we have distance from A to B:
using (1) above and using d = rt in the chart above, we
have this system:
Since the 2nd equation is x = r, we replace x by r, and
simplify the other equations:
From the 1st equation we replace hr by r+y in the 2nd and 3rd equation,
They simplify to
From the 2nd equation, substituting 6r for y in the other two equations
gives
Divide the 2nd equation through by 5
Substituting 6r-64 for z in the first equation.
<-- answer
It isn't required, but if we get all the other variables,
h=7 hours, x = 16 miles, y=96 miles,
z=32 miles, so the distance from A to B is 112 miles.
Edwin
Answer by mccravyedwin(405) (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
Ikleyn's solution is CORRECT. I overlooked the word "MORE", and solved this
problem instead, where the "....." is below. It is a much harder problem that
way. A train traveling from Avondale to Bimmaeus stops at a cracked rail after 1
hour, and the engineer spends half an hour fixing it. After which it proceeds at
four fifths its usual rate to make it easier to check for problems, arriving at
Bimmaeus 2 hours late. If the train had covered 80 miles.....before the
accident, it would have been just one hour late. What is the train's usual
speed?
Edwin
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