SOLUTION: The pattern forming the irrational number 0.12340432100123400043210000... continues indefinitely. What is the 1945th digit in this pattern?

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Question 1204618: The pattern forming the irrational number 0.12340432100123400043210000... continues indefinitely. What is the 1945th digit in this pattern?

Found 4 solutions by greenestamps, Edwin McCravy, mccravyedwin, ikleyn:
Answer by greenestamps(13195) About Me  (Show Source):
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The lengths of the strings of digits beginning with "1234" are

11, 15, 19, 23, ...

The n-th term in this sequence is 4n+7.

The sum of the n terms of the sequence

11, 15, 19, ..., 4n+7

is

n%28%2811%2B%284n%2B7%29%29%2F2%29
n%28%284n%2B18%29%2F2%29
n%282n%2B9%29
2n%5E2%2B9n

Use a graphing calculator or some other method to find that the value of n that makes that sum 1945 is a bit more than 29. Then find that the sum of 29 terms of the sequence is 1943.

So the 1945th digit in the given number is the second digit in the sequence "1234..." that begins each string.

ANSWER: 2

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NOTE: I believe Edwin's first response was correct. When the problem asks for the 1945th digit IN THIS PATTERN, I don't think the 0 before the decimal point is part of THE PATTERN.


Answer by Edwin McCravy(20054) About Me  (Show Source):
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I deleted this solution where I forgot to count the 0 before the decimal point
as the first digit.  Below is the corrected version.

Edwin

Answer by mccravyedwin(405) About Me  (Show Source):
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[The first time I did this problem I forgot to count the 0 digit before the
decimal point as the 1st digit. Here is the correction. I'll delete the first
one.]

The 1's at the beginning of a 1234 appear at digits 2, 13, 28, 47. 
Then I found the quadratic function that passes through (1,2), (2,13), (3,28),
by substituting those points in y=ax%5E2%2Bbx%2Bc, and finding a=2, b=5, and
c=-5. So the equation is:

y=2x%5E2%2B5x-5, where the yth term is a 1 at the beginning of a 1234.

So I set y=1945 and solved the equation:

2x%5E2%2B5x-5=1945 and got x as 30 exactly.

Then I substituted the whole part x=30 in

y=2x%5E2%2B5x-5

So the 1945th digit is a 1 at the beginning of a 1234.

Edwin

Answer by ikleyn(52754) About Me  (Show Source):
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The pattern forming the irrational number 0.12340432100123400043210000... continues indefinitely.
What is the 1945th digit in this pattern?
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        The post does not instruct,  from which digit to start counting;
        So,  in my solution I will start counting digits from the first digit after the decimal dot.


I look to the numerical string after the decimal dot.


What I see is this:

    
   First I see a block of 4 digits 1234.
   then  I see 1 zero.
   then  I see a block of 4 digits 4321
   then  I see 2 zeros.
   then  I see a block of 4 digits 1234
   then  I see 3 zeros.
   then  I see a block of 4 digits 4321
   then  I see 4 zeros.


   Then I see ellipses, but I assume that this pattern does continue,

   so, regularly there is k-th block  of 4 digits followed by k zeroes.


   I presented it in the Table below


counter k        1     2       3       4       5       6        7

   
block of digits  4     4       4       4       4       4        4
1234  or  4321

block of zeros      1      2       3       4       5        6        7



The formula of the length  N(k)  of k blocks of 4 digits followed by k zeros is 

            N(k) = 4k + k%2A%28k%2B1%29%2F2


Then I write this equation

            k%2A%28k%2B1%29%2F2 + 4k = 1945

or  

            k^2 + k + 8k = 3890

            k^2 + 9k - 3890 = 0.


From this equation, I want to determine how many described blocks are before the 1985-th digit

Therefore, I want to find the solution to this equation and to round it to the closest (lesser) integer number.

The root is 58.032, and I round it to 58.


So, before the 1945-th digit, I have 58 complete groups as described above, and N(58) = 1943.


The 59-th group starts from 1234;

    so, the 1944-th digit is 1 (one), and 1945-th digit is 2.    ANSWER


At the end, I remind, that I do not consider zero before the decimal dot and start counting digits 
from the first digit after the decimal dot.


If you mean some other way of counting digits, you can modify the answer, based on what is written in my post.