SOLUTION: Can you help me write {{{log(a,(40/(a^3)))}}} in terms of x and y if {{{log(a,2)=x}}}, and {{{log(a,25)=y}}}? Thanks!

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Question 275180: Can you help me write log%28a%2C%2840%2F%28a%5E3%29%29%29 in terms of x and y if log%28a%2C2%29=x, and log%28a%2C25%29=y? Thanks!
Answer by jsmallt9(3758) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
log%28a%2C+%2840%2F%28a%5E3%29%29%29
First let's split this logarithm into two. We can use the property of logarithms, log%28a%2C+%28p%2Fq%29%29+=+log%28a%2C+%28p%29%29+-+log%28a%2C+%28q%29%29, to do this:
log%28a%2C+%2840%29%29+-+log%28a%2C+%28a%5E3%29%29
The second logarithm simplifies:
log%28a%2C+%2840%29%29+-+3
Now we need to express the remaining logarithm in terms of x and y. If we factor 40 we might be able to see a path to our solution:
log%28a%2C+%282%2A2%2A2%2A5%29%29+-+3
If we can separate the 2's into separate logarithms, each of them would be an "x". We can use another property of logarithms,
The first three logs are x:
x+%2B+x+%2B+x+%2B+log%28a%2C+%285%29%29+-+3
which simplifies to:
3x+%2B+log%28a%2C+%285%29%29+-+3
All we have left to do is to express log%28a%2C+%285%29%29 in terms of x and/or y. Since 2 is not a factor of 5 it would seem that x will not help us with this. 25 is not a factor of 5 either so at first glance it would seem that y will not help either. But there is a connection between 5 and 25. 5%5E2+=+25 and sqrt%2825%29+=+5. We can use this connection to take the equation for y and modify it to give us an expression for log%28a%2C+%285%29%29:
y+=+log%28a%2C+%2825%29%29
Square roots are exponents of 1/2. So somehow we need to get an exponent of 1/2 on the 25. The only legitimate way is a little tricky. We cannot just raise both sides to the 1/2 power. This would put the exponent on the logarithm, not on the 25 in the argument of the logarithm. But we have yet another property of logarithms, q%2Alog%28a%2C+%28p%29%29+=+log%28a%2C+%28p%5Eq%29%29, which comes to our rescue. This lets us move a coefficient in front of the logarithm into the argument as an exponent! So if we can introduce a coefficient of 1/2 we can then use this property to move it into the argument as the exponent of 25.

To introduce the coefficient of 1/2 all we need to do is multiply both sides of our equation by 1/2:
%281%2F2%29y+=+%281%2F2%29log%28a%2C+%2825%29%29
Now we can use the property:
%281%2F2%29y+=+log%28a%2C+%2825%5E%281%2F2%29%29%29
and simplify:
%281%2F2%29y+=+log%28a%2C+%285%29%29
Now we can return to our expression:
3x+%2B+log%28a%2C+%285%29%29+-+3
and substitute for log%28a%2C+%285%29%29:
3x+%2B+%281%2F2%29y+-+3