SOLUTION: The sum of three numbers in a geometric progression GP is 13 and there products is -64. Find the numbers.

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Question 1210284: The sum of three numbers in a geometric progression GP is 13 and there products is -64. Find the numbers.
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Answer by ikleyn(52781) About Me  (Show Source):
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The sum of three highlight%28consecutive%29 numbers in a geometric progression highlight%28cross%28GP%29%29 is 13 and highlight%28cross%28there%29%29 their highlight%28cross%28products%29%29 product is -64.
Find the numbers.
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So, in standard designations, the terms are a, ar and ar^2.


From the problem, we have two equations

    a + ar + ar^2 =  13,     (1)   (the sum)

    a*(ar)*(ar^2) = -64.     (2)   (the product).


Equation (2) is the same as

    (ar)^3 = -64,

which gives us

    ar = -4.     (3)


We substitute ar = -4 into equation (1).  We get then

    a - 4 + ar^2 = 13,

    a + ar^2 = 13 + 4 = 17.    (4)


We also represent ar^2 as  (ar)*r = -4r.

Then equation (4) takes the form

    a - 4r = 17.    (5)


Now we have a system of two equations (3) and (5)

    ar = -4,        (3)

    a - 4r = 17.    (5)

    
From (3), express r = -4%2Fa  and substitute it into (5).  You will get

    a+-+%284%2A%28-4%29%2Fa%29 = 17,

     a^2 + 16 = 17a,

     a^2 - 17a + 16 = 0,

     (a-16)*(a-1) = 0.


It gives two possible solutions for 'a', 16 and 1.

    If a = 16,  then  r = -4%2Fa = -4%2F16 = -1%2F4.

    If a =  1,  then  r = -4%2Fa = -4%2F1 =  -4.


Thus, two progressions are possible.


One progression is        16, -4, 1.                (*)

The other progression is   1, -4, 16   (the same as (*), but reversed)


Both progressions satisfy the imposed conditions.

Solved.

Enjoy !



Answer by greenestamps(13200) About Me  (Show Source):
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The product of three consecutive terms of a geometric sequence is equal to the cube of the middle term. Since the product of the three terms in this problem is -64 = (-4)^3, the middle term is -4.

Let r be the common ratio in the geometric sequence. Then since the middle term is -4, the three terms are -4/r, -4, and -4r.

The sum of the three terms is 13:

%28-4%2Fr%29%2B%28-4%29%2B%28-4r%29=13

Multiply everything by r to get a quadratic equation in r:

-4-4r-4r%5E2=13r
4r%5E2%2B17r%2B4=0
%284r%2B1%29%28r%2B4%29=0
r=-1%2F4 or r=-4

(1) If r = -1/4, the terms are
-4/r = -4/(-1/4) = 16
-4
-4r = (-4)(-1/4) = 1
The sequence is 16, -4, 1

(2) If r = -4, then the terms are
-4/r = -4/-4 = 1
-4
-4r = (-4)(-4) = 16
The sequence is 1, -4, 16

ANSWER: The three numbers are (in either order) 1, -4, and 16. (Note that there are two different SEQUENCES that satisfy the conditions of the problem, but there is only one ANSWER to the problem, because it only asks for the three numbers.)

Note we could have solved the problem informally (and quickly) by trial and error, once we determined that the middle term is -4.

Since the sum of the three terms is positive and the product is negative, the common ratio must be negative; and since the sum and product are both integers, the common ratio is almost certain to be an integer.

Trying r=-2 with middle term -4 gives us 2, -4, and 8, and the sum of those is not 13.

Trying r=-4 with middle term -4 gives us 1, -4, and 16, and the sum of those IS 13.

And then of course those three terms can be in the opposite order, giving us two different sequences.