SOLUTION: Evaluate {{{ sqrt( (7/3)+sqrt( (7/9)+sqrt( (7/3)+sqrt( (7/9) ) ) ) ) }}} +...

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Question 1107096: Evaluate +...
Found 2 solutions by Edwin McCravy, ikleyn:
Answer by Edwin McCravy(20055) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!

Let the answer be A: 

A%22%22=%22%22%22%22%2B%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22

Then square both sides:

A%5E2%22%22=%22%22%22%22%2B%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22

Let 

B%22%22=%22%22%22%22%2B%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22

Then A%5E2%22%22=%22%227%2F3%2BB

Then square both sides of the equation for B:

B%5E2%22%22=%22%22%22%22%2B%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22%2A%22%22

Then B%5E2%22%22=%22%227%2F9%2BA

So we have the system of equations

system%28A%5E2=7%2F3%2BB%2CB%5E2=7%2F9%2BA%29

Solve the system by substitution. [If you have trouble solving
that system, tell me in the message form below and I'll get back
to you by email.]

You get two real solutions and two imaginary solutions. However, 
since by definition, square root radicals always indicate only
non-negative real numbers, both A and B are non-negative real
numbers.  So the only acceptable solution to the given problem 
is 

A = 2  (B = 5/3).


Edwin

Answer by ikleyn(52781) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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I am familiar with this problem . . .

It was posted to the forum a week or two ago,  and I solved it . . .

So,  I know that  the formulation in  THIS  post IS   NOT  EXACTLY  PRECISE.

Therefore,  I edited it,  and the  EDITED  formulation  (the only correct,  valid and right version)  is  THIS:

    Evaluate    

Below is the solution:

Let  us consider, for brewity of writing, more general expression

sqrt%28a+%2B+sqrt%28b+%2B+sqrt%28a+%2B+sqrt%28b%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29 = x,    (1)

where  a = 7%2F3,  b = 7%2F9.  Square (1)  (both sides).  You will get then  

a+%2B+sqrt%28b+%2B+sqrt%28a+%2B+sqrt%28b%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29 = x%5E2,

x%5E2-a = sqrt%28b+%2B+sqrt%28a+%2B+sqrt%28b%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29.        (2)


Square (2)   (both sides).  You will get then

%28x%5E2-a%29%5E2 = b%2Bsqrt%28a+%2B+sqrt%28b%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29.         (3)

%28x%5E2-a%29%5E2-b = sqrt%28a+%2B+sqrt%28b%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29.         (4)


Notice that the right side of the expression (4) is the same as the given expression,  so it is equal to x.  Thus you have 

%28x%5E2-a%29%5E2+-+b = x.                  


It is equivalent to


x%5E4+-2a%2Ax%5E2+%2B+a%5E2 - b = x,    or

x%5E4+-+2a%2Ax%5E2+-+x+%2B+%28a%5E2-b%29 = 0.


Now substitute here  a = 7%2F3,  b = 7%2F9. You will get this equation in the form

x%5E4+-+%2814%2F3%29%2Ax%5E2+-+x+%2B+14%2F3 = 0,   or, multiplying all the terms by 3

3x%5E4+-14x%5E2+-+3x+%2B+14 = 0.


The plot of the last polynomial is shown below.






Plot y = 3x%5E4+-+14x%5E2+-+3x+%2B+14



It clearly shows that  x= 1  and  x= 2 are the roots.  Having this HINT, you can check it MANUALLY  (as I did . . . ).

The two other roots of the polynomial are complex numbers.


Since  the value of  sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9+%2B+sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29  is, obviously, real number greater than 1, it can be only 2.


It proves that  sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9+%2B+sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29 = 2.


Answer.  sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9+%2B+sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9%29+%2B+ellipsis%29%29%29 = 2.


Check.   sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9+%2B+sqrt%287%2F3+%2B+sqrt%287%2F9%29%29%29%29 = 1.984 (approximately).

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