SOLUTION: A pair of dice is rolled together till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. Then probability that 5 comes before 7

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Question 1132192: A pair of dice is rolled together till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. Then probability that 5 comes before 7
Found 2 solutions by greenestamps, ikleyn:
Answer by greenestamps(13200) About Me  (Show Source):
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P(5) = 4/36 = 1/9
P(7) = 6/36 = 1/6
P(neither 5 nor 7) = 26/36 = 13/18

P(5 before 7) =
P((5 on first flip) OR
(neither 5 nor 7 on first flip AND 5 on second flip) OR
(neither 5 nor 7 on first flip AND neither 5 nor 7 on second flip AND 5 on third flip) OR
...) =

1/9 + (13/18)(1/9) + (13/18)(13/18)(1/9) + ...

This is an infinite geometric series with first term a = 1/9 and common ratio r = 13/18.

The formula for the sum of an infinite geometric series with first term a and common ratio r (|r|<1) is

S+=+a%2F%281-r%29

You can do the calculation.

Answer by ikleyn(52803) About Me  (Show Source):
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A pair of dice is rolled together till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. Then probability that 5 comes before 7
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            As I read the problem,  I understand it in this way  (literally as it is written) :

                A pair of dice is rolled together. As soon as a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained, the experiment stops.

                What is the probability that the last obtained sum is 5 ?

            It is different from reading by @greenestamps,  who counts when and how the  "7"  will be obtained after getting of  "5".

            In my interpretation,  I do not concern what will happen after  EITHER  5  OR  7  will be obtained - it is the command
            to stop the experiment.

            Therefore,  my solution is different,  although the answer is the same number.


Solution

P(5) = 4%2F36 = 1%2F9       <<<---=== of  6x6 = 36 sample cases only 4 produce the sum of 5.


P(7) = 6%2F36 = 1%2F6       <<<---=== of  6x6 = 36 sample cases only 6 produce the sum of 7.


The problem asks to find a conditional probability of getting the sum of 5 under the condition that this sum is EITHER  "5"  OR  "7".


Then this conditional probability is  P%285%29%2FP%285_or_7%29 = %28%284%2F36%29%29%2F%28%284%2F36+%2B+6%2F36%29%29 = 4%2F10 = 2%2F5 = 0.4 = 40%.       ANSWER