SOLUTION: Find the value of (a+b)/(a-b) if (a+b)^2 = 8ab and a^2 + b^2 = 6ab. a and b are real numbers

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Question 1037851: Find the value of (a+b)/(a-b) if (a+b)^2 = 8ab and a^2 + b^2 = 6ab. a and b are real numbers

Found 2 solutions by Edwin McCravy, ikleyn:
Answer by Edwin McCravy(20055) About Me  (Show Source):
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system%28%28a%2Bb%29%5E2+=+8ab%2C+a%5E2%2Bb%5E2+=+6ab%29

system%28a%5E2%2B2ab%2Bb%5E2+=+8ab%2C+a%5E2%2Bb%5E2+=+6ab%29

system%28a%5E2-6ab%2Bb%5E2+=+0%2C+a%5E2-6ab%2Bb%5E2+=+0%29

So as we see, the two equations are equivalent.
So there was no need for both those equivalent
equations to have been given.  Just one of them
was all that was necessary.

So we just solve for one of the variables in 
terms of the other:

a%5E2-6ab%2Bb%5E2+=+0

That's a quadratic in two variables.
It is symmetrical in a and b. 

Solving for a in terms of b. To avoid a conflict
of letters, we CAPITALIZE the letters of the 
quadratic formula

a+=+%28-B+%2B-+sqrt%28+B%5E2-4AC+%29%29%2F%282A%29+



a+=+%286b+%2B-+sqrt%2836b%5E2-4b%5E2%29+%29%29%2F2+

a+=+%286b+%2B-+sqrt%2832b%5E2%29%29%2F2+

a+=+%286b+%2B-+sqrt%2816%2A2b%5E2%29%29%2F2+

a+=+%286b+%2B-+4b%2Asqrt%282%29%29%2F2+

a+=+%282%283b+%2B-+2b%2Asqrt%282%29%29%29%2F2+

a+=+%28cross%282%29%283b+%2B-+2b%2Asqrt%282%29%29+%29%2Fcross%282%29+

a+=+3b+%2B-+2sqrt%282%29b

Now we want to find

%28a%2Bb%29%2F%28a-b%29%22%22=%22%22

%283b+%2B-+2sqrt%282%29b%2Bb%29%2F%283b+%2B-+2sqrt%282%29b-b%29%22%22=%22%22

%284b+%2B-+2sqrt%282%29b%29%2F%282b+%2B-+2sqrt%282%29b%29%22%22=%22%22

%28cross%282b%29%282+%2B-+sqrt%282%29%29%29%2F%28cross%282b%29%281+%2B-+sqrt%282%29%29%29%22%22=%22%22

%282+%2B-+sqrt%282%29%29%2F%281+%2B-+sqrt%282%29%29%22%22=%22%22

We rationalize the denominator:


3b ± 2√2b + b
————————————— =
3b ± 2√2b - b


4b ± 2√2b
————————— =
2b ± 2√2b

 
2 ± √2
—————— =
1 ± √2


(2 ± √2)(1 ∓ √2)
———————————————— =
(1 ± √2)(1 ∓ √2)


2 ± √2 ∓ √2 - 2
———————————————— =
1 ± √2 ∓ √2 - 2


∓√2
——— =
-1


±√2


Edwin

Answer by ikleyn(52781) About Me  (Show Source):
You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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Find the value of (a+b)/(a-b) if (a+b)^2 = 8ab and a^2 + b^2 = 6ab. a and b are real numbers
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There is much shorter and much straightforward solution.

Instead of %28a%2Bb%29%2F%28a-b%29, let us consider the square of this expression,

%28a%2Bb%29%5E2%2F%28a-b%29%5E2.  

It is  %28a%2Bb%29%5E2%2F%28a-b%29%5E2 = %288ab%29%2F%28a%5E2-2ab%2Bb%5E2%29   ( <--- I replaced %28a%2Bb%29%5E2 in the numerator by  8ab  according to the condition )

= %288ab%29%2F%286ab-2ab%29 =                    ( <--- I replaced a%5E2+%2B+b%5E2 in the denominator by  6ab  according to the condition )

= %288ab%29%2F%284ab%29 = 2.


Since the square of the expression is equal to 2, the expression itself is +/-sqrt%282%29:

%28a%2Bb%29%2F%28a-b%29 = +/-sqrt%282%29.

There is no need to solve any equations.