We have one side as 8. By the triangular inequality, the other two sides must have a larger sum than 8. So the smallest their sum can be is 9. So the smallest possible perimeter is 8+9=17. There are four possible triangles with that perimeter and positive whole numbers for sides. They are: 1,8,8 (an isosceles triangle) 2,7,8 3,6,8 4,5,8 In each case the perimeter is 17. Edwin