There are 60 minute-marks around the face of a clock. The speed of the minute hand is 60 minute-marks per 1 hour, oror The speed of the hour hand is 60 minute-marks per 12 hours. or or or At 4:00 the hour hand has a 20 minute-mark head start on the hour hand, so the minute hand's catch-up rate is 60-5 or . Since time = , the minute hand will catch up to the hour hand in hr which reduces to of an hour which is minutes or minutes, or minutes That's 21 minutes and seconds. Edwin