SOLUTION: a firm hires 7 technicians and 3 apprentices for total daily wages of 820. if one apprentice is appointed to a technician, the total daily wages become 880. What are thr daily wage

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Question 1209934: a firm hires 7 technicians and 3 apprentices for total daily wages of 820. if one apprentice is appointed to a technician, the total daily wages become 880. What are thr daily wages for a technician and an apprentice
Found 5 solutions by CPhill, angelatoyogon, ikleyn, josgarithmetic, greenestamps:
Answer by CPhill(1959) About Me  (Show Source):
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Let's use variables to represent the daily wages:
* Let 't' represent the daily wage of a technician.
* Let 'a' represent the daily wage of an apprentice.
We can set up two equations based on the given information:
**Equation 1:** 7 technicians and 3 apprentices earn 820.
* 7t + 3a = 820
**Equation 2:** If one apprentice becomes a technician, there are 8 technicians and 2 apprentices, and they earn 880.
* 8t + 2a = 880
Now we have a system of two linear equations with two variables. We can solve for 't' and 'a'.
**Solve the System of Equations:**
We can use the substitution or elimination method. Let's use the elimination method.
1. Multiply Equation 1 by 2 and Equation 2 by 3 to make the 'a' coefficients match:
* (7t + 3a = 820) * 2 => 14t + 6a = 1640
* (8t + 2a = 880) * 3 => 24t + 6a = 2640
2. Subtract the first modified equation from the second modified equation to eliminate 'a':
* (24t + 6a) - (14t + 6a) = 2640 - 1640
* 10t = 1000
3. Solve for 't':
* t = 1000 / 10
* t = 100
4. Substitute the value of 't' back into either Equation 1 or Equation 2 to solve for 'a'. Let's use Equation 1:
* 7(100) + 3a = 820
* 700 + 3a = 820
* 3a = 820 - 700
* 3a = 120
5. Solve for 'a':
* a = 120 / 3
* a = 40
**Answers:**
* The daily wage of a technician (t) is $100.
* The daily wage of an apprentice (a) is $40.

Answer by angelatoyogon(1) About Me  (Show Source):
Answer by ikleyn(52786) About Me  (Show Source):
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a firm hires 7 technicians and 3 apprentices for total daily wages of 820.
if one apprentice is appointed to a technician, the total daily wages become 880.
What are the daily wages for a technician and an apprentice
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To be honest, as written in the post, it is not clear to me, too.

In my view, the problem formulation in the post is not as clear as it should be in Math problems,
and requires to be explained.

Had I formulate this problem, I would make it differently. I would write

    A firm hires 7 technicians and 3 apprentices for total daily wages of 820. 
    Later, one of the 3 apprentices was appointed to a position of technician, 
    and, therefore, the total daily wages became 880. 
    What are the daily wages for a technician and an apprentice ?

Now everything is clear, everything is transparent, the meaning is clear and additional clarifications are not needed.

It is how Math problem should be formulated, when it goes outside.

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Answer by josgarithmetic(39617) About Me  (Show Source):
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Apprentice day pay rate, x
Technician day pay rate, y
Initially 3 apprentices and 7 technicians

                   PAY-RATE           TIME(day count)      WAGE 

APPRENTICES          x                     1                  3x

TECHNICIANS          y                     1                  7y

Total                                                       820


one less apprentice and one more technicin

                   PAY-RATE           TIME(day count)      WAGE (total)

APPRENTICES          x                    1                  2x  

TECHNICIANS          y                    1                   8y

Total                                                       880

system%283x%2B7y=820%2C2x%2B8y=880%29------Solve this system.

Answer by greenestamps(13200) About Me  (Show Source):
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Here is a quick and easy informal mental solution to the problem.

The combined wages of 7 technicians and 3 apprentices is 820.
When one apprentice becomes a technician, the combined wages of 8 technicians and 2 apprentices is 880.
So when an apprentice becomes a technician, the combined wages go up by 60.

Have that happen twice more, ending up with 10 technicians and 0 apprentices. The combined wages is now 880 + 60 + 60 = 1000.

So the wage for each technician is 1000/10 = 100.

When there were 7 technicians and 3 apprentices, the total wages was 820. The wages for the 7 technicians was 7*100 = 700, so the wages for the 3 apprentices was 820-700 = 120; so the wage for each apprentice is 120/3 = 40.

Alternatively, once we find that the wages for each technician is 100, we can use the fact that the total wages increase by 60 each time an apprentice becomes a technician to determine that the wage for each apprentice is 100-60 = 40.