SOLUTION: <pre> Suppose x is a positive number such that {{{x^2=1-x}}}. There is a unique choice of whole numbers p and q so that {{{x^8=p-qx}}}. Find p+q. My attempt: I know that if

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Suppose x is a positive number such that . There is a unique choice of whole numbers p and q so that . Find p+q.


My attempt:
I know that if , then , which simplifies to . Then what?


Found 2 solutions by ikleyn, MathTherapy:
Answer by ikleyn(52792)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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            It is  VERY  nice problem,  admitting  BEATIFUL  solution.
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If x^2 = 1-x, then

   x^8 = (1-x)^4 = 1 - 4x + 6x^2 - 4x^3 + x^4.


The idea is to replace in this expression, and in all expressions that follow, x^2 by (1-x) 
everywhere, where it is possible, and as many times as possible, until you get the desired 
expression of degree 1 (one).


                        See how it works


    x^8 = 1 - 4x + [6(1-x)] - [4x*(1-x)] + [(1-x)*(1-x)] = I continue =

        = 1 - 4x + 6 - 6x - 4x + 4x^2 + 1 - 2x + x^2 = 8 - 14x + 5x^2 = I replace x^2 by (1-x) again = 

        = 8 - 14x + 5*(1-x) = 8 - 16x + 5 - 5x = 13 - 21x.    

 
    So, p = 13, q = 21  and  p + q = 13 + 21 = 34.      ANSWER

Solved.

This method is called  " the lowering of a degree "  method.


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Answer by MathTherapy(10552)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
Suppose x is a positive number such that . There is a unique choice of whole numbers p and q so that . Find p+q.

My attempt:
I know that if , then , which simplifies to . Then what?
                   I got p + q = 34

                   

You already know that: 
                   So,  ---- Substituting  
                       
                          
                           ----- Substituting 1 - x for x2
                          
 
              Finally, , so p = 13, and q = 21. Therefore, p + q = 13 + 21 = 34

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