We only need to choose the group of 8, for the ones not chosen will make up the group of 12. Case 1: The set of twins are in the group of 8. We choose the other 6 in that group from the 18 non-twins in 18C6 ways. Case 2: The set of twins are NOT in the group of 8. We choose all 8 from the 18 non-twins in 18C8 ways. Answer: 18C6 + 18C8 = 18564 + 43758 = 62322 ways. Edwin