We have 60 things, and we are to choose 5. That's 60 choose 5 = 60C5, also sometimes written C(60,5) or, computed (5 factors in the numerator, 5 factors in the denominator) Then the entire denominator always cancels entirely into the numerator, and you end up with a huge number of ways 5,461,512 = five million four hundred sixty one thousand five hundred twelve. Edwin