First we'll calculate the number of ALL 4-digit numbers that can be made with them. Then we'll calculate and subtract the number of 4-digit numbers that don't have any of the digits identical. To find all possible 4-digit numbers that can be made. 1. There are 5 ways to choose the 1st digit. 2. For each of those 5 ways to choose the 1st digit, there are 5 ways to choose the 2nd digit. That's 5*5 or 52 or 25 ways to choose the 1st 2 digits. 3. For each of those 5*5 or 52 or 25 ways to choose the 1st 2 digits, there are 5 ways to choose the 3rd digit. That's 5*5*5 or 53 or 125 ways to choose the 1st 3 digits. 4. For each of those 5*5*5 or 53 or 125 ways to choose the 1st 3 digits, there are 5 ways to choose the 4th digit. That's 5*5*5*5 or 54 or 625 ways to choose the 1st 4 digits, which is all of them. Now we must subtract the number of ways in which there are no two digits alike. So we'll calculate that number of 4-digit numbers that we must subtract: 1. There are 5 ways to choose the 1st digit. 2. For each of those 5 ways to choose the 1st digit, there are 4 ways to choose the 2nd digit. That's 5*4 or 20 ways to choose the 1st 2 digits. 3. For each of those 5*4 or 20 ways to choose the 1st 2 digits, there are 3 ways to choose the 3rd digit. That's 5*4*3 or 60 ways to choose the 1st 3 digits. 4. For each of those 5*4*3 or 60 ways to choose the 1st 3 digits, there are 2 ways to choose the 4th digit. That's 5*4*3*2 or 120 ways to choose the 1st 4 digits, which is all of them. So the answer is 54 - 5*4*3*2 or 625 - 120 or 505. Edwin