D A U G H T E R 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 [Notice that DAUGHTER itself is NOT one of the required permutations because A is in position 2, which is not an odd position] There are 4 odd positions: 1,3,5,7. There are 3 vowels: A,E,U An example of one of the desired permutations would be RTEHAGUD, R T E H A G U D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Take away the consonants and leave only the vowels for illustration: E A U 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 The permutation of odd positions chosen here for A,E,U were 5,3,7 respectively. We placed the A in position 5, the E in position 3, and the U in position 5. E A U 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 There are 4P3 permutations of 3 of the odd positions 1,3,5,7 The one that was chosen in this example was 5,3,7. In that example, We placed A in the odd position 5 that came first in the PERMUTATION 5,3,7 of odd positions, (not that came first in the word!). Then we placed E in the odd position that came second in the PERMUTATION 5,3,7 of odd positions, (not that came second in the word!). Finally we placed U in the odd position that came third in the PERMUTATION 5,3,7 of odd positions, (not that came third in the word!) There are 5 remaining positions in which to place the 5 remaining letters which is 5P5. Answer: (4P3)(5P5) = 24(120) = 2880. Edwin