There are 12C4 = 495 to select any 4 balls from the 12. From that number, we must subtract 1. The number with no red balls: That's 7C4 = 35 since there are 7 non-reds. 2. The number with exactly 1 red ball. We can choose the 1 red ball 5C1 = 5 ways. For each of those 5 ways to choose the 1 red ball, there are 7C3 = 35 ways to choose the other 3 balls. That's 5*35 = 175 Final answer: 495 - 35 - 175 = 285 ways Edwin