SOLUTION: If m is a positive integer and sqrt(4m^2+29) is an integer, then what is m?

Question 1209939: If m is a positive integer and sqrt(4m^2+29) is an integer, then what is m?
Found 4 solutions by math_tutor2020, ikleyn, mccravyedwin, AnlytcPhil:
Answer by math_tutor2020(3816)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!

Answer: m = 7

Work Shown
k = some integer
k = sqrt(4m^2+29)
k^2 = 4m^2+29
k^2-4m^2 = 29
(k-2m)(k+2m) = 29
29 is prime so the only factors are 1 and 29.

k and m are integers, so k-2m and k+2m are also integers.
In order for (k-2m)(k+2m) = 29 to be the case, we'd need either

or

In either system of equations, adding straight down leads to 2k = 30 which solves to k = 15.

Then,
k-2m = 1
15-2m = 1
-2m = 1-15
-2m = -14
m = -14/(-2)
m = 7
Or,
k-2m = 29
15-2m = 29
-2m = 29-15
-2m = 14
m = 14/(-2)
m = -7
We ignore m = -7 since your teacher stated that m > 0
Check: sqrt(4m^2+29)=sqrt(4*7^2+29)=15 is an integer.

Answer by ikleyn(52779)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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If m is a positive integer and sqrt(4m^2+29) is an integer, then what is m?
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If is an integer number n, then 4m^2 + 29 = n^2 29 = n^2 - 4m^2 29 = (n-2m)*(n+2m). 29 is a prime number, so it has two possible decompositions into the product of prime factors 29 = 1* 29 or 29 = (-1)*(-29). Therefore, we have 4 systems of linear equations to analyze n - 2m = 1, (1) n + 2m = 29, (2) n - 2m = -1, (3) n + 2m = -29, (4) n - 2m = 29, (5) n + 2m = 1, (6) n - 2m = -29, (7) n + 2m = -1. (8) From system (1), (2), by subtracting equations, we have 2m - (-2m) = 29-1, 4m = 28, m = 28/4 = 7 and then n = 1 + 2m = 1 + 2*7 = 15. So, the solution pair is (m,n) = (7,15), and it works properly: = = = 15. From system (3), (4), by subtracting equations, we have 2m - (-2m) = -29-(-1), 4m = -28, m = -28/4 = -7. It does not work, since the number m should be positive, by the condition. From system (5), (6), by subtracting equations, we have 2m - (-2m) = 1-29, 4m = -28, m = -28/4 = -7. It does not work, since the number m should be positive, by the condition. From system (7), (8), by subtracting equations, we have 2m - (-2m) = -1 - (-29), 4m = 28, m = 28/4 = 7 and then n = 1 + 2m = 1 + 2*7 = 15. So, the solution pair is (m,n) = (7,15), the same as we got from system (1), (2), and it works properly: = = = 15. ANSWER. For the given problem, there is a unique solution for m. It is m = 7.

Solved.

I placed this my solution here after the solution by tutor @math_tutor2020 to make the analysis complete.

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My comment/response to the Edwin's comment, regarding my post.

For this given problem, considering all four decompositions 29 = 1*29 = 29*1 = (-1)*(-29) = (-29)*(-1) is NECESSARY for the completeness of the analysis. So, all 4 (four) cases/decompositions MUST be considered, exactly as it was made in my post.

Answer by mccravyedwin(407)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!

Tutor Ikleyn states 29 is a prime number, so it has two possible decompositions in the product of prime numbers 29 = 1* 29 or 29 = (-1)*(-29). But unless we are in modern algebra where there are such things as "groups", "rings", etc., and where "prime number" has a different definition, then "prime number" always means a positive integer with exactly 2 unique positive integer factors. While 29 = (-1)*(-29) is true, it is not a decomposition in the product of prime numbers. Edwin

Answer by AnlytcPhil(1806)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!

Tutor Ikleyn states

29 is a prime number, so it has two possible decompositions in the product of
prime numbers 

        29 = 1* 29   or  29 = (-1)*(-29).

You may not say that. You may say:

29 is a prime number, so it has ONE possible decomposition in the product of
prime numbers 

        29 = 1* 29.

Or you may say:

29 is a prime number, so it has two possible decompositions in the product of
integers. 

        29 = 1* 29   or  29 = (-1)*(-29).


Edwin

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