SOLUTION: (a) Let x, y, and z be positive real numbers. Find the largest possible value of \sqrt{\frac{3x + 5y + 2z}{6x + 5y + 4z}} + \sqrt{\frac{2x + 5y + z}{6x + 5y + 5z}} + \sqrt{\frac{

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Question 1209926: (a) Let x, y, and z be positive real numbers. Find the largest possible value of
\sqrt{\frac{3x + 5y + 2z}{6x + 5y + 4z}} + \sqrt{\frac{2x + 5y + z}{6x + 5y + 5z}} + \sqrt{\frac{9x + y + 4z}{6x + 5y + 4z}}.

(b) Find \frac{z}{x} if (x,y,z) is a triple that gives the maximum value in Part (a).

Found 3 solutions by Edwin McCravy, ikleyn, mccravyedwin:
Answer by Edwin McCravy(20054)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
That crazy notation again!  Why they insist on that, I'll neve know.

(a) Let x, y, and z be positive real numbers.  Find the largest possible value of


The arithmetic mean of expressions for non-negative numbers always exceeds the
geometric mean except when they are all the same.  So we normalize them by
setting x=y=z= a constant, which may as well be 1.  So we let x=y=z=1 and





That's the largest possible value.

(b) Find  if (x,y,z) is a triple that gives the maximum value in Part
(a).

Since (1,1,1) is such a triple .  No?  

Edwin

Answer by ikleyn(52776)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!
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(a) Let x, y, and z be positive real numbers. Find the largest possible value of
\sqrt{\frac{3x + 5y + 2z}{6x + 5y + 4z}} + \sqrt{\frac{2x + 5y + z}{6x + 5y + 5z}} + \sqrt{\frac{9x + y + 4z}{6x + 5y + 4z}}.
(b) Find \frac{z}{x} if (x,y,z) is a triple that gives the maximum value in Part (a).
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The solution in the post by  Edwin  (as  Edwin  McCravy)  is incorrect.

It becomes incorrect starting from Edwin's assumption that x = y = z provide the maximum.

Edwin refers to the fact that "the arithmetic mean of expressions for non-negative numbers
always exceeds the geometric mean except when they are all the same".

This fact is true, but it has nothing in common with the assumption x = y = z.

This fact only means that the three expressions under the square roots should be equal,
but this does not implies or is equivalent to x = y = z.


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In his post as @mccravyedwin, Edwin writes 

    "It doesn't seem obvious to Ikleyn why it works just to substitute x = y = z = 1."


In response, I will say that 

    It doesn't seem obvious to    why it      work just to substitute x = y = z = 1.


To prove it, I will take x = y = 1, z = 0.  In other words, I will assume that x and y both go to infinity
with the same rate, while z remains limited.


Then the expression 




will approach to 

 =  = 2.60398949 approximately, which is    than Edwin's number 2.489695145.


                So, Edwin's invectives to my address have no any solid base.



Answer by mccravyedwin(406)   (Show Source): You can put this solution on YOUR website!

It doesn't seem obvious to Ikleyn why it works just to substitute x = y = z = 1.
Let's forget the means of x,y,z,w.  I was thinking of that to get a starting
place to start my thinking from.

(a) Let x, y, and z be positive real numbers.  Find the largest possible value of


To me, it seems obvious that if all three variables approach infinity at the
same rate, they will approach 


2.489695145 approximately, and that the value could not be higher than that,

Notice that is the same value as substituting 1 for all the variables.  I am not
saying that proves anything, just that it starts us to thinking in the right
direction.  I still think it's right.  Maybe we could show it rigorously with
multivariable calculus by setting the partial derivatives equal zero, and
examining the behavior at that point.

(b) Find  if (x,y,z) is a triple that gives the maximum value in Part
(a).

Since (1,1,1) is such a triple .   

Edwin

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